Ford Fiesta 1.0L Ecoboost Titanium 100 or 125 bhp

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Shock horror as ragging the nuts off a 1.0 doesn't yield high mpg figures :p
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But i rag the nuts of my ST and still get 40mpg on my commute compared to 43 in the 1.0l.

I can hyper mile/stay off boost in the ST and get over 50mpg as well.

I am just surprised the fuel economy gap isn't larger considering the power difference, that is all.
 
The thing that always bothers me about these small high specific performance engines, is that they are basically motorbike engines in large heavy cars.

Fine on paper, But surely, things like the journal bearing loads (Big end/Main) are going to be double what they might of been on engines even 10 years ago.

This combined with small sump capacities, and no doubt the now standard extended service intervals,

Longevity?? I will believe it when I see it! :p
 
Going to test drive an ST Line 140 today.

We need a car in May/June to replace a short term lease. My wife would use it for commuting and round town with the occasional longer journey.

We want something with reasonable power without the additional expense/risk of an ST model. Perhaps better residuals on an ST but im not sure the higher upfront cost and running costs would be worth it.

Tested an Abarth 500 yesterday which was hilarious and would be my choice (we have a 500 currently) but it is a little bit small for just having one car.
 
Berger said:
Going to test drive an ST Line 140 today.

We need a car in May/June to replace a short term lease. My wife would use it for commuting and round town with the occasional longer journey.

We want something with reasonable power without the additional expense/risk of an ST model. Perhaps better residuals on an ST but im not sure the higher upfront cost and running costs would be worth it.

Tested an Abarth 500 yesterday which was hilarious and would be my choice (we have a 500 currently) but it is a little bit small for just having one car.
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I don't think an ST is that much more expensive than a top of the line Titanium X is it?

I doubt an ST will be that much more to run/fuel, or even insure either unless the person being insured is really young.

If you drive an ST line 140 you will probably be forever wishing you got the fully fledged ST :p

having said all this, i would be wary of buying any current model Fiesta unless it was a stonking good deal considering the new one is out soon (although the new ST might be a longer wait).

Can't seem to find exactly when this year it will be out though.
 
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The "ST line" is just the standard model with a bodykit. It doesn't have the ST's feel or performance.

The running costs are barely anything more for the ST. You will find with the 1.0 you need to floor it everywhere just to get going, in the ST you barely have to touch the throttle.
 
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Berger said:
Going to test drive an ST Line 140 today.

We need a car in May/June to replace a short term lease. My wife would use it for commuting and round town with the occasional longer journey.

We want something with reasonable power without the additional expense/risk of an ST model. Perhaps better residuals on an ST but im not sure the higher upfront cost and running costs would be worth it.

Tested an Abarth 500 yesterday which was hilarious and would be my choice (we have a 500 currently) but it is a little bit small for just having one car.
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Great car (might be a little bit biased :p). I test drove both the ST-3 and this, and for me the ST was just a bit too firm for the roads where I live. At normal speeds there isn't that much between them at all, and on a welsh b-road it'll happily keep up with an M140i in the twisties, and have the same lift off oversteer tendancies as the ST.

At the start I was sort of regretting not going for the ST, as the extra tuning capability is there, plus the gearbox is a lot better, but after getting used to how it drives and learning how to get the most from it, it's a properly fun little car, and can surprise a lot of more expensive metal. It's also a lot cheaper (mine's leased).

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Here's a review of the red edition by Clarkson. It's pretty much identical to a 140 ST-Line, apart from the ridiculous colour scheme. He quite likes it. https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/the-clarkson-review-ford-fiesta-zetec-s-red-edition-2015/
 
Nasher said:
The running costs are barely anything more for the ST. You will find with the 1.0 you need to floor it everywhere just to get going, in the ST you barely have to touch the throttle.
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I've only driven the 1.0 140hp, and I can't say that "you need to floor it everywhere just to get it going" :confused:

It accelerates exceptionally well from low down. You can accelerate from about 1800rpm much quicker than you'd think.
 
Berger said:
Going to test drive an ST Line 140 today.

We need a car in May/June to replace a short term lease. My wife would use it for commuting and round town with the occasional longer journey.

We want something with reasonable power without the additional expense/risk of an ST model. Perhaps better residuals on an ST but im not sure the higher upfront cost and running costs would be worth it..
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Be mad not to wait for the new 2017 fiesta's which are meant to go on sale in summer 2017..

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/ford-fiesta-price-specs-release-date-2894

Am Guessing that the older fiesta resale values will also drop like a stone when the new model fiesta is launched..
 
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Came away thinking it was a perfectly good warm hatch. Performance maybe a little more refined than I was expecting.

Cabin felt a little small, seat could have gone a bit further back and not that much headroom (189cm).

You certainly didn't have to thrash it to get decent performance out of it.

We aren't looking for an out and out banzai hot hatch, just one with more performance than your every day 75bhp asthmatic hatch.

As for B roads, I'm sure it would be more than capable.

Out of the two I prefer the Abarth 500, it's a fair bit cheaper, little better performance, less refinement, better looks. Can live with a smaller boot as the cabin space is fine and just put th seats down.
 
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Jono8 said:
lol
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Seeing how useless half the BMW drivers are over here I think a bicycle could keep up with them...
Must likely explains why most BMW cars have an auto gearbox...;)

It also seems to be a case of the worst a driver is the bigger the car they buy..:(
 
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My driving style is fairly relaxed, I have a zetec 1.0 100 and currently average around 50-52MPG over the last 22K miles.

But my commute is 90% on motorway/dual carriageway at about 60.
 
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