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I remember this scene from House:
Australian parenting - No Jab, no play and no rebate
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Your wife's friends - and I'm choosing my words very charitably here - don't understand what they're talking about.
yep, they absolutely are neglecting their kids and after talking and educating them, if they still refuse they really should be prosecuted.
lol that was awesome.... and spot on.
Some people are stupid, 20 minutes of internet research and suddenly they think they know more than the millions of hours sunk in by researchers
I think they should be forced to watch videos of children dying from any of the diseases suppressed by mass vaccination. Then some more videos of people dying of smallpox. Then a video of the entire USA completely depopulated, everyone dead, rotting corpses everywhere...and told that smallpox killed more people than that in only 50 years.
Then they should be taken away at gunpoint and locked away somewhere sealed up tight, full quarantine. They are dangerous to everyone. They are also irrational even in the context of their own irrational beliefs because even if there was an increased risk of autism (which there isn't) it wouldn't be worse than the increased risk of brain damage causing much more harm than autism and it wouldn't be worse than the increased risk of death...both of which are increased risks that actually exist without vaccination, unlike the "increased risk" of autism with vaccination. Which was made up not to stop vaccination but to promote a specific company's vaccine.
They're not just willfully endangering their own children. They're willfully endangering everyone, especially other people's children.
They're obviously ignorant of history too, since even a cursory knowledge of history shows that contagious diseases routinely killed large proportions of populations in epidemics and shaped human history even more than war did in many respects (and killed far more people). They're reaping the benefits of mass vaccination programs that have made their lives so safe they never have to worry about such things...and they're trying to ensure that future generations don't have that safety. Starting with their own children. That's a really nasty thing to do.
Sorry. Medicine itself is the ultimate danger to human civilisation. It's literally weakening humanity. We have evolved for an exponentially longer time without medicine than we have with medicine. What this does is create a dependence on it. In exchange for temporary emotion suppression, we have started to sustain humanity artificially.
In just the last 100 years, humanity has built up an utterly disastrous dependence on medicine. Heck a lot of humans can barely reproduce without advanced medical intervention anymore! I saw a giraffe give birth with nothing the other day.
The problem with artificially sustaining humanity is that technology will not last forever and it's only available to people with MONEY. If only 2 people have built a natural immunity to some deadly disease, I'd rather every other human being die and those people reproduce, rather than keeping everyone alive by constantly being pumped full of barely tested drugs just so we can milk this Earth and it's resources for an extra 5-10 years.
Also there's a bit of a paradox here: If you're immune, why do you even care about non-immune people? Being immune doesn't mean you cant transmit the disease. It just means your body can identify and purge an infection. How often do you think you are exposed to the diseases you're "vaccinated" against?
Most humans will never understand that death is an inevitability of life. Look how many times you mentioned death in that paragraph, it's pure emotional, and not rational. Every single life form on earth is guaranteed to be a "rotting corpse" lol. It does not tantalise my emotion whatsoever.
But how are "other peoples children" being endangered? Surely you have to assume the immunisation works lol
You can only assume you're endangered if you also assume that the vaccine was pointless.
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Ahaha emotional blackmail. "Baby coffins" lol. Precisely what I'm talking about above, didn't even see that before I posted.
I used to take the view of "educate people and they will make the right decisions" but now I have seen first hand how truly thick vast swathes of people are. If you aren't going to make it law to do things that people should be doing anyway, then redneck prizes like Wetherspoons vouchers will have the same impact.
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Sad but true.
The reason why your view of "educate people and they will make the right decisions", isn't working is because there is no education going on here lol. Simply telling a bunch of brain-dead and emotionally susceptible humans that vaccination is great and that you should give us your money to live a little longer is not the same as educating anyone on anything lol, let alone in the field of immunology, nor genetics and human evolution.
To be truly educated on a vaccination you'd need to conduct or have access to a 100-200 year multigenerational study and then be intellectual enough to be able to identify and understand every variable.
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This thread is unreal. If you don't vaccinate your kids, you are neglecting them? Seriously?
When was the last time any of you who think like that fully researched vaccines, or when was the last time any of you asked your doctor what is the possible side effects of the flu jab you are about to have? Did you all just accept the doctors advice without thinking for yourself?
All medicine has bad side effects, only a fool would think vaccines don't have any.
Unless any of you have actually done any real research into it the benefits AND the dangers of vaccines, you have absolutely no right to say anyone is neglecting their kids.
Those who just simply believe every thing they are told without question, are the ones who are doing the neglecting.
For the record, I know some one who works in caring for those who are damaged by medicine, and vaccines is a major contributer to her job.
When was the last time any of you who think like that fully researched vaccines, or when was the last time any of you asked your doctor what is the possible side effects of the flu jab you are about to have? Did you all just accept the doctors advice without thinking for yourself?
All medicine has bad side effects, only a fool would think vaccines don't have any.
Unless any of you have actually done any real research into it the benefits AND the dangers of vaccines, you have absolutely no right to say anyone is neglecting their kids.
Those who just simply believe every thing they are told without question, are the ones who are doing the neglecting.
For the record, I know some one who works in caring for those who are damaged by medicine, and vaccines is a major contributer to her job.
You should be sorry for that false apology. It's deceitful.
That's breathtaking nonsense.
Humans started to sustain themselves artificially long before the beginning of recorded history. Pre-human hominids sustained themselves artificially before humans even existed. All tool use is artificial.
You appear to be arguing that all medical problems are caused solely by unsuppressed emotion, since you refer to all medicine as "temporary emotion suppression". I'm not sure how to respond to that, since it requires denying external sources of physical injury and either denying the existence of germs and parasites or denying that they can cause disease.
As can humans in most circumstances. And just like giraffes, they can die as a result. More so, given the disproportionately large human head. I'd prefer to have that pointless dying reduced.
You'd have a point if that was true. But technology will last as long as human civilisation, a lot of it is cheap and a lot of it is cheaper than dealing with all the corpses. A species with a population of 2 is extremely unlikely to survive without external help and the chance of even just 2 people having immunity to all deadly diseases all the time is approximately nil anyway. Humanity will survive a lot longer with better technology than without it, not just 5-10 years.
If you think humanity should die for some reason, then say so honestly.
Did you really intend to deny that vaccination exists? You've just done so, but perhaps it was just a mistake in language on your part.
I am very rarely exposed to most of the diseases I'm vaccinated against because a large enough proportion of people in the UK are also vaccinated against them and therefore can't serve as hosts.
There is no paradox, since immunity isn't perfect and germs evolve.
There's no point responding to a purely emotional belief with reason. So I proposed an emotional response to it. Unlike you, most people are bothered by pointless and preventable suffering and death on a huge scale.
But how are "other peoples children" being endangered? Surely you have to assume the immunisation works lol
You can only assume you're endangered if you also assume that the vaccine was pointless.
Or if you have some understanding of how contagious diseases work.
I'm assuming what you mean by research is selectively reading articles online and agreeing with stuff that already fits your preconceived opinions? If I'm wrong then please link me to some research you've produced on the subject. Otherwise STFU about 'research', you're not researching anything, you're believing in crap you've read online.
Dealing with all the corpses?? If you have 1000 people. and 999 die from some disease when they're 30. You still have EXACTLY the same number of corpses even if no one dies from a disease. The only difference is that the corpses are a bit more wrinkly and saggier.
I'm not arguing that medical problems are caused by unsupressed emotion hahaha, I'd agree that is just laughable. I'm saying the keeping someone alive for an arbitrary amount of time temporarily suppresses the emotional strain of losing that person. The entire motivation for medical care is based on emotional attachment. That person is going to die regardless. Medicine simply defers it by an arbitrary amount of time.
I'm sorry, "preventable death"? How?
I think these vaccines are getting to your head
(maybe mine lol). At the very best you're preventing a virus from replicating in and/or disabling your body for a few years. You're not preventing death.
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