Australian parenting - No Jab, no play and no rebate

Evangelion said:
You are fractally wrong, and this muddled paragraph makes no sense at all. The rest of your post is equally vapid.

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Ahhhh Evangelion. I still remember that EPIC satirical peice you wrote in the Madeline McCann thread. That was masterfully done. Therefore, if you can joke about Maddie, I cannot take anything you say seriously, I assume you're just having a laugh.

I have focused on this image because it made me laugh the most. It literally suggests polio vaccine is a cure for "poor sanitation" :D. No polio cases? Yeah lets completely ignore all the other diseases spread through poor sanitation, and just because polio isn't an issue, poor sanitation must also not be an issue right???

Hahaha. You're a comedy legend mate. I will never forget the Madeline satire.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
I picked apart your post earlier asim if your going to post your standard 'Oh please' replies, you might as well save it, i regularly witness you post them on a daily basis on GD and id rather not take part in one of your regular meltdowns.
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You must be blind. I have never posted a blanket "oh please" reply ever. Just because I said Oh please at the END of my post it means it's an "oh please post"??? You must be trolling me.

Also a meltdown? lol, I am able to remain perfectly civil and composed during any discussion thank you very much. :)

Three other people including YOU posted the "oh please" replies, now you're just retorting to defence mechanisms by deflecting YOUR "oh please" post onto me and then accusing me of having a meltdown :D.

My post explained everything civilly, using logic and reason (even after people literally called me "stupid"). You are still unable to offer anything reasonable or logical and have now instead decided to switch your vaccine of choice from "polio" to TB :D

I never said ALL vaccines are pointless.
 
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Angilion said:
Most side effects of eating spicy foods are mild...does that raise a few concerns for you?

How about aspirin? Paracetomol? Water? They all can have side effects...as can anything that has any effect.

You spoke about medical organisations lying for some unspecified purpose. The idea that vaccination is more risky than not vaccination is flat out a conspiracy belief and a particularly implausible one since it requires global lying on an unprecendented scale.
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What I was saying is the first thing anybody might read about vaccines on the NHS site is that there are risks.

I think the main problem here is that people are thinking that I am against vaccines when I am neither for them nor against them - I do not jump in one camp or the other because I do not know enough to make an informed decision, if I had a child it would be different.

What I am saying is that I can understand people being wary and people here are jumping on it, which tbh is typical bullying behaviour for this place, which is also why I very rarely post in these type of sensitive threads.

I take it all of you lot have read everything there is to read before you made your informed choices?

And enough of the conspiracy accusations, please, but if it makes you feel better to pigeon hole anybody who has a different opinion to yours as being simply a nut case then carry on.
 
Dr.Eddie said:
And enough of the conspiracy accusations, please, but if it makes you feel better to pigeon hole anybody who has a different opinion to yours as being simply a nut case then carry on.
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This is actually a psychological defence mechanism which comes into play when you have an interest in something but cannot fully understand every variable. The person has predisposed ideas and beliefs and will start saying and doing irrational things to back it up. I mean look what's happened when I explained polio, you get three defensive people appear with one liner replies and then one of them actually goes "forget about polio and you're the one doing one liners" and then tries to shift the focus on TB like the polio vaccine doesn't even exist. :D

hahaha.

I notice it because it happens a lot with me. Especially when I start discussing linguistics and stuff. I remember one poster when he thought the study of linguistics didn't even exist, and there I was reading books written by professors in the field. That was hilarious.
 
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Evangelion said:
Polio is also spread via saliva. This means it can be transmitted by sneezes, coughs, and even kisses.
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But polio isn't a respiratory tract infection. So you still need to EAT that person's saliva or cough lol. Simply breathing or touching it isn't going to do anything.

And even if it does get into you, there's a 70% chance you wont even realise!
 
asim18 said:
Which wiki is this line from please: "It is occasionally transmitted via the oral-oral route,["
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Dis86 said:
It is occasionally transmitted via the oral-oral route,[

these may include upper respiratory tract infection (sore throat and fever),

specifically the oropharynx



Guess what the oropharynx is....

All lines from the wiki you quoted earlier.
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That doesn't mean it's a RTI. I've already agreed it can be transmitted through oral-oral but as i said, you still need to EAT it. It's not respiratory infection. Your eating tract is not the same as your breathing tract, even though air comes out people's bums sometimes.
 
asim18 said:
Polio is spread through infected poop. The route of transmission is the fecal-oral route lmao. Surely you don't think people are literally pooping through people's letterboxes lol. 100% of polio cases vanish just by making sure you're not eating or drinking pieces of ****.

Ever thought that the reason that "polio was rife" is simply because the people affected were just eating or drinking poop? :D
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Are you suggesting that polio is pretty much eradicated because hygiene is better?

There were 42 cases in 2016 - if your logic stands, how come we haven't also all but eradicated all the other fecal-oral route infections such as:
  • norovirus (estimated 7.7 million cases annually in industrialized countries)
  • c-diff (estimated 500,000 cases, 29,000 deaths in the US, 2015)
  • Hepatitis A (around 1.4 million symptomatic infections per year)
  • rotavirus (215,000 deaths worldwide in 2013)
  • Hepatitis E (28 million new cases in 2013)
To be fair, Hep A and Rotavirus are dropping. I'm sure that's down to the good hygiene and not that they both have vaccinations available though.
 
asim18 said:
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I picked apart your polio argument but offered TB as an example because you wont accept that polio can be transmitted in ways that does not involve faecal matter. My arguments for vaccines apply to all vaccines, i merely switched to another example because you were going full meltdown and obsessing with poop on polio.

My arguments for mandatory vaccinations are for herd immunity. Denying the effects of herd immunity with all the evidence posted is irrational and illogical.

Now you can continue to nitpick on a specific detail about something that was once related to the topic and go full meltdown as you normally do, or you can bring your points back to the discussion of vaccines.

I would recommend letting the whole poop thing go, since no one is really interested.
 
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