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1700X and 1800X have a +20'C Temp offset, 1700 unaffected.

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Something i just found recently, but if people were thinking their 1700X and 1800X temperatures are being reported a bit high, this appears to be the reason.

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What I don't understand is why they are doing it even after having a basic explanation. They state it is to do with fan curves, surely all would be the same regardless?
 
If it leads to better overclocks, I may be tempted to spend the extra on one of the X models. Too bad they dont come with coolers though, even as a backup :(
 
Unbelievable, some people on here even thought their CPUs were faulty due to the high temps. Tom from overclock 3d even asked AMD if the 85C load temps he was seeing were normal, given that the air coming out of his test PC was not hot, and they said they were. His CPU fans were going crazy as a result as well. It almost seems like AMD only recently discovered that this offset exists.

Ryzen really is a great product and puts AMD back in the game. I just wish they'd get on top of these issues beforehand for a change.
 
Seems pretty dumb if true. How does reporting higher temps benefit anybody? 20 degrees is a massive difference too!
 
Its like a crowdfunded cpu. I think everyone who bought into the Ryzen platform somehow became unpaid QA/ Beta testers without knowing it .......
 
Just wish that it gets sorted. I've had 3 completely different temperatures now. Stock BIOS, latest BIOS and an offset change.

Who knows how hot it really is, I can't feel heat from the AIO rad as much as the 3930K, so it'll do for now. Pointless using any software at the moment it seems.
 
Its like a crowdfunded cpu. I think everyone who bought into the Ryzen platform somehow became unpaid QA/ Beta testers without knowing it .......

Always the same with new hardware. e.g. Intel's Pentium FDIV or early sandybridge SATA issues or more recently (and ongoing?) Nvidia's 10 series latency issues.

Some people claim its fun to be on the leading edge, others think of it as the bleeding edge for a reason.
 
Just wish that it gets sorted. I've had 3 completely different temperatures now. Stock BIOS, latest BIOS and an offset change.

Who knows how hot it really is, I can't feel heat from the AIO rad as much as the 3930K, so it'll do for now. Pointless using any software at the moment it seems.

As long as it doesn't crash due to heat, you are OK!

Overclocking rule of thumb during the AMD Thunderbird era......
which allowed us to do 50-55% overclock on the 1000Mhz one :D
 
So thats why it says 82c on my 360 external rad custom loop even tho water and everything is cool in touch lol
 
Always the same with new hardware. e.g. Intel's Pentium FDIV or early sandybridge SATA issues or more recently (and ongoing?) Nvidia's 10 series latency issues.

Some people claim its fun to be on the leading edge, others think of it as the bleeding edge for a reason.

I understand that and I've generally been an early adopter myself, but this isn't just one issue, this is multiple issues and the whole Ryzen eco system feels very 'alpha' at the moment with people holding out for a bios update that will fix everything. Dont get me wrong , i think Ryzen in a years time will be a very solid platform indeed but i think its going to leave the initial buyers feeling a little conned. Amd hashed this release for no apparent good reason, in reality it needed a good 2 more months of testing and development, Amd knew of all the issues at the time of release and have just dealt with it in the typical Amd damage control.
 
What a weird thing to do... not sure what purpose this serves, other than to make people favour the cheaper model due to apparent lower thermals? :rolleyes:
 
What a weird thing to do... not sure what purpose this serves, other than to make people favour the cheaper model due to apparent lower thermals? :rolleyes:

It ensures fans ramp up faster to ensure the X variants can hit their boost clocks without getting too hot. Means that only one fan profile needed for the mobos, rather than a profile for each CPU.
 
What's more of interest to me is that this means the X chips are 20 deg cooler than they otherwise thought, and theoretically means they can OC much higher than people are going based on the fact we now appreciate they're not as close to the thermal ceiling.

Is this not the case? Should people not be able to confidently push for high clocks now?
 
It ensures fans ramp up faster to ensure the X variants can hit their boost clocks without getting too hot. Means that only one fan profile needed for the mobos, rather than a profile for each CPU.

Seems like a bit of a lazy shortcut though? At lease one user on this forum has returned his 1700x for a refund as he presumed it was faulty based on the insanely high idle temp. Accurate temp reporting and a proper fan profile would be much preferable. How much extra work can it be to provide one additional profile for the X chips??
 
Seems like a bit of a lazy shortcut though? At lease one user on this forum has returned his 1700x for a refund as he presumed it was faulty based on the insanely high idle temp. Accurate temp reporting and a proper fan profile would be much preferable. How much extra work can it be to provide one additional profile for the X chips??

You would have to do it on a per part basis, that is the issue.
 
Its like a crowdfunded cpu.
It would be so lol if AMD made only made like 5 CPUs, leaked the tests then used the preorder money to pay to get the CPUs mass produced (ofc I'm not saying that happened, just would be lol).


Who knows how hot it really is, I can't feel heat from the AIO rad as much as the 3930K, so it'll do for now. Pointless using any software at the moment it seems.
My R1700X is feelably putting out less heat than my 4930K did, but that's to be expected for a 95w CPU compared to a 130W one. At the end of the day my cooling was fine for the 4930K so I really don't care how hot the R1700X is whe it cannot possibly generate as much heat.
 
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