The taxi driver said he thought she was 20.
Man admits to rape of a 12 year old
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The taxi driver said he thought she was 20.
And you still wanted him legally punished for it further? Seriously, punished for what exactly? Statutory rape? Should he have asked for ID before they got down?
Hodders provided a good example of hierarchy of blame to an extent. Unfortunately as it is a strict liability offence the courts hands are somewhat tied even in extreme cases falling outside the scope of the statute when enacted. The only real culpability he could and should possibly be liable for in the circumstance is where he had known or found out prior or during their intimate relations. It is very difficult to legislate for all eventualities and the judge dealt with it the best way possible, with the options available.
You are a bit confused about the saying, ignore of the law is no defence, ignorance of the facts is a defence!
What would punishing him serve? He did not know that he was doing anything wrong, there is no criminal mind here. He was deceived into committing an offence, he is a victim not a criminal.
She was 12.
I don't think he's confused at all, he doesn't even quote whatever saying you're referring to - I don't agree with him about the idea that the perpetrator should be punished however ignorance(of the facts), in this case, isn't a defence, thus he was correctly advised to plead guilty and the judge correctly took into account the rather unique circumstances.
Given the man wouldnt have had sex with a 12 year old if it werent for her age then perhaps a case of "rape by deceptipn" on her part
A child does not be out at 4 in the morning drinking vodka, going to parties with strange men and shagging.
That's the ideal, yes, but there is no action she can take that stops her being a child. Except growing older, of course.
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That's adorable. Guess she was out at 4am drinking and partying with her My Little Ponies. Poor child.
I know people in their 20s and 30s who are still children. I think its silly that everyone magically turns into an adult on their 18th birthday. There should be some sort of examination to certify you as an adult, not simply how many years you've been alive lol.
Humans are the only species where post pubescent individuals can still be regarded as infants...:/
He should have been able to judge her age by what, psychic powers? Serious question here, do you think we should all ask for photo ID?
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I had a few one night stands but I never ****** anyone I'd just met.ok dad!
can you not remember being 19? most 19 year olds would shag themselves if they could!!
Isn't that what a one night stand is?
This seems like one of those literally doesn't know what words mean moments.
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Trust me, it's perfectly possible to have a one night stand with someone you've known for years
He has been, is and will for life be severely punished for having believed a very plausible lie.
It can be and it should be in any fair legal system.
You seem to have misunderstood the idea that ignorance of the law shouldn't be a legal defence.
I'll use a less emotive example to encouraging thinking rather than emoting. Here's a note for the hard of thinking - this does not mean that two different crimes are the same.
Imagine a scenario in which you buy a used CPU in a private sale. You have every reason to think it's a legit sale. There is no indication at all that the CPU was stolen. None of the circumstances are unusual or in any way suspicious. The person selling it to you has proof of purchase and the original packaging. But the cpu is stolen. Would you consider yourself guilty of handling stolen goods? Theft? Breaking and entering? Or do you consider your ignorance to be a reasonable defence since you had no reason to think the CPU was stolen and good evidence that it was not?