Shots fired outside parliament - Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

adolf hamster · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:21

Y'know on the subject of the media, maybe there should be a level of regulation binding them to only be able to report verifiable facts, that should at least help with this "we have reports that" or "its unconfirmed yet but..."

I'm all for free press and the ability to criticise who they like, but the state of it this day isnt getting far off straight up lying.

Avenged7Fold · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:23

It would be hard to police but there is a line between speculation and slander which often gets crossed.

C.R.A.Z.Y · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:36

I think the method facebook is adopting is the way too go.
Advise that the info you are spreading is debunked/refuted but allow you to post it if you insist but display it with the given links to the debunking/fact check.

Avenged7Fold · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:37

Thats good but it still gives media the traffic.

C.R.A.Z.Y · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:39

But anything beyond that and you are entering the realms of censorship which is a slippery slope imho

nick.lidgett · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:40

Greebo said:
Well now that the media are reporting he got radicalised in Saudi Arabia, which seems to be a very common factor in Western terrorist attacks, when are we going to demand that nobody can travel to SA or if they do they cant come back here?

I just read on the Metro website he may have been radicalised in prison in 2003, I cant keep up with all the changes/ new info/ rumours

Greebo · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:54

Avenged7Fold said:
Lol

I recall his claims of hoards of migrants coming to populate the countryside... when his county is something like 95% from the British Isles. I will say that the Daily mail know their readers well!

Yeah a bit like where I live. Everybody bangs on about immigrants coming here and "dirty ragheads" can **** off back home but you never see a none white person except maybe once a year and then you know they must be a tourist. But its the biggest issue to local people as they beleive all those DM and Express headlines about millions of immigrant men are about to move here and rape their daughters.

Dis86 · 24 Mar 2017 at 12:58

Greebo said:
Yeah a bit like where I live. Everybody bangs on about immigrants coming here and "dirty ragheads" can **** off back home but you never see a none white person except maybe once a year and then you know they must be a tourist. But its the biggest issue to local people as they beleive all those DM and Express headlines about millions of immigrant men are about to move here and rape their daughters.

It's funny isn't it. Same where I live. I've pointed out of here before that in my high-school there was literally 1 none white kid. 1.

However the converse is true elsewhere. When I lived in London a friend of mine was the only white child in his class.

Greebo · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:00

Dis86 said:
It's funny isn't it. Same where I live. I've pointed out of here before that in my high-school there was literally 1 none white kid. 1.

However the converse is true elsewhere. When I lived in London a friend of mine was the only white child in his class.

We had one black kid in a school of 730. He was Prince Waga Waga Natunga from Nigeria. That was it.

Skunkworks · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:07

Mynight said:
No they dont . Using insults just detracts from any point you try to make. If you can't debate without resorting to insults then you're lacking substance in your argument.

It's amusing to watch fringe lefties yelling "extremist" at anyone east of Stalin.

Mynight · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:11

Skunkworks said:
It's amusing to watch fringe lefties yelling "extremist" at anyone east of Stalin.

I find it sad when either side does it.

It doesn't help any debate. Certainly doesn't sway anyone to your point of view.

Certain posters on here can't post without insulting others trying to prove a point.

kitch9 · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:11

Dis86 said:
It's funny isn't it. Same where I live. I've pointed out of here before that in my high-school there was literally 1 none white kid. 1.

However the converse is true elsewhere. When I lived in London a friend of mine was the only white child in his class.

One school in my area has to deal with over 20 different languages. How anyone learns owt is beyond me.

Freakbro · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:39

Greebo said:
We had one black kid in a school of 730. He was Prince Waga Waga Natunga from Nigeria. That was it.

No....you're taking the ****.....a Nigerian Prince....he didn't want to transfer a large amount of money into your account did he?

Avenged7Fold · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:51

I am a Nigerian prince and i would like to request your help. I have somehow manage to leave my princely lunch money at home and would like to ask if you could cover me so that i may retrieve the money. Of course i will be so grateful that i will pay you for your kindness.

mmj_uk · 24 Mar 2017 at 13:53

nick.lidgett said:
I just read on the Metro website he may have been radicalised in prison in 2003, I cant keep up with all the changes/ new info/ rumours

I remember seeing an interview with Tommy Robinson and he was saying that prisons have become hotbeds for Islamic radicalisation, maybe he was talking **** but it's worth bearing in mind the BNP were trying to blow the whistle on child sexual exploitation gangs years before it became public whilst it was being covered up. I'm not condoning BNP but they seem to have a closer ear to the ground than everyone else and a lot of them probably have first hand experience of prison.

The Running Man · 24 Mar 2017 at 14:08

Go to school in Rochdale. Then you'll see

Ayahuasca · 24 Mar 2017 at 14:21

The Running Man said:
Go to school in Rochdale. Then you'll see

Okay bud, I'll apply now.

nick.lidgett · 24 Mar 2017 at 14:33

mmj_uk said:
I remember seeing an interview with Tommy Robinson and he was saying that prisons have become hotbeds for Islamic radicalisation, maybe he was talking **** but it's worth bearing in mind the BNP were trying to blow the whistle on child sexual exploitation gangs years before it became public whilst it was being covered up. I'm not condoning BNP but they seem to have a closer ear to the ground than everyone else and a lot of them probably have first hand experience of prison.

My wife is a prison officer at a male cat c prison, inside the prison the people that follow Islam stick to themselves the same way other racial and religious groups tend to do, prison is responsible for a lot of extremist behavior but not in just one particular group of offenders.

Just to clarify, she comes home with all sorts of horrific stories, so if youve ever read prison is all playstations and pool tables thats a lie.

Greebo · 24 Mar 2017 at 14:34

Freakbro said:
No....you're taking the ****.....a Nigerian Prince....he didn't want to transfer a large amount of money into your account did he?

No honestly he was. I went to a posh boarding Grammar School. He had 56 middle names apparently as in the tribe he was from, when somebody was born they took the first name of each living relative as their middle name

Rroff · 24 Mar 2017 at 14:38

Greebo said:
No honestly he was. I went to a posh boarding Grammar School. He had 56 middle names apparently as in the tribe he was from, when somebody was born they took the first name of each living relative as their middle name

They usually curtail it after a bit - often some of the older family/tribal names become merged into one longer, but compacted, name, etc. I've worked with a few who have something along the lines of:

Arabic name (which is used interchangeably with a western equivalent of it), western name which is also used interchangeably with the first, father's name, grandfather's name and then a mixture of family/tribal name and surname in one - occasionally they'll have 1-2 great grandfather/family names in there as well.