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Bonus on Ryzen?
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My personal choice is the 1700X, close enough to the 1800X and £100 cheaper. Depending on which benchmarks you look it also can be faster than the 1700 on stock settings.
Most will say 1700 and just overclock it.
Most will say 1700 and just overclock it.
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But yes.... in your case if you want more then upgrade your GPU instead. maybe a 1080ti?
I had a 4770 non k and i went with a 1700. I don't regret it at all. That said at qhd your money will probably be best spent on a new GPU.
Unless you like messing with new tech and you can afford to upgrade your GPU down the line then go for it. Just don't expect any big gains in gaming. All my gaming benchmarks put ryzen just ahead or equal to my haswell.
Unless you like messing with new tech and you can afford to upgrade your GPU down the line then go for it. Just don't expect any big gains in gaming. All my gaming benchmarks put ryzen just ahead or equal to my haswell.
Get both? I upgraded from a 4.7Ghz i5 4690k to a 1700. Gaming, I've seen no drop in frame rates but an over all 'smoother' experience. Just clock the 1700, if you get lucky, they will do 4Ghz+ on nice volts.
I'm looking to sell both my MSI 980Tis and jump on to a 1080Ti. Just need to take some pictures and they will be on MM's today.
I'm looking to sell both my MSI 980Tis and jump on to a 1080Ti. Just need to take some pictures and they will be on MM's today.
Surely 1700 with OC and spend the extra cash on faster RAM?
Definitely. The RAM is going to make the difference if the 1700 and 1700x are at the same clock speed.
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I would put your cash into either a better monitor or gpu or both. Your cpu is more than capable of keeping up with a 1440p display and at best Ryzen will match haswell for gaming purposes.
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Upgrade the card - even with a Xeon E3 1230 V2/Core i7 3770 and a GTX1080 I was GPU limited at qHD once I turned the settings up in a number of games!!
Edit!!
Even in one of the most CPU intensive parts of ROTTR,overclocking the graphics card still yielded performance gains:
http://forums.hexus.net/reader-revi...dventure-gtx1080-fin-now-moar-benchmarks.html
I tested six newish games at qHD,and that is less than two weeks ago too.
A Core i7 4770K,especially if overclocked would be faster than my current CPU too.
Edit!!
Even in one of the most CPU intensive parts of ROTTR,overclocking the graphics card still yielded performance gains:
http://forums.hexus.net/reader-revi...dventure-gtx1080-fin-now-moar-benchmarks.html
I tested six newish games at qHD,and that is less than two weeks ago too.
A Core i7 4770K,especially if overclocked would be faster than my current CPU too.
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I went from an I5 haswell to a Ryzen 1700 (currently @ 4ghz) mainly becuase the I5 was giving me stutters in BF1, decent frames but it wasnt smooth 100% of the time. Its now butter smooth, the ryzen and a 1080 @2101 on the new maps i dont really drop below 110 fps running with a 120 limiter.
I forgot to mention im a qhd monitor running high presets
I forgot to mention im a qhd monitor running high presets
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The pound has lost 20% of its value though - the GTX980TI launched at $650 and the GTX1080TI at $700.
If you want a new card,keep the money in the bank and see how Vega affects the prices,if you feel the price is too high.
You have a recent Core i7 which can be overclocked - Ryzen might help in BF1 but again personally with a Haswell Core i7 I would rather wait for Zen 2 or Coffee Lake next year.
The other alternative is to get a GSync monitor and stick with your current card.
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Buying a gsync monitor locks him to nvidia for future upgrades. A reason why i went with a benq 144hz. No monitor should tie me to a brand. If you have an upgrade itch then go ryzen. That platform will outlast a new GPU. Only you can decide if it is worth it though. Remember that ti will be on par with nvidia's next "70" GPU just like the previous generations.
You could always go VR if that money is burning a hole in your pocket
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Buying a gsync monitor locks him to nvidia for future upgrades. A reason why i went with a benq 144hz. No monitor should tie me to a brand. If you have an upgrade itch then go ryzen. That platform will outlast a new GPU. Only you can decide if it is worth it though. Remember that ti will be on par with nvidia's next "70" GPU just like the previous generations.
You could always go VR if that money is burning a hole in your pocket
Personally if I had the upgrade itch for gaming,I think just spending £600 on a new CPU platform is not really worth it if I had an overclocked Haswell Core i7 - I have a GTX1080 and even with an ancient locked IB Core i7 once you max settings it is not enough in certain newer games. Even AMD wants testing done at GPU limited resolutions.
The OP can wait until Vega is out,and see what the pricing is like then,and sell on their GTX980TI.
The fact of the matter there is no guarantee Ryzen 7 will be an upgrade in all games(it might be worse in some than an overclocked Haswell Core i7),and by the time games start to actually NEED six to eight cores(and a Haswell Core i7 becomes a total wreck in games),Zen 2 and Coffee Lake will be here anyway.
By that time you will actually have a much more mature platform instead of the lottery people seem to be playing now - I don't think I know a single person in real life(not forums) who has a Haswell Core i7 who will be upgrading to a Ryzen or BW-E CPU anytime soon if it is for gaming. I don't know a single gamer mate of mine who ditched a Haswell Core i7 for a SKL/KL Core i7 either.
Even with BF1,a few months ago a recent Core i7 was perfectly fine,now it is isn't which is getting silly - I didn't see everybody telling people to ditch their Haswell Core i7s to get a BW-E Core i7 6800K for example when it came out. BF1 is not the only FB based game out there - suddenly forums say an overclocked Haswell Core i7 is not enough to run it,then by extension a large percentage of BF1 and SWBF players won't be able to run the game.
Most gamers don't own £300+ CPUs last time I checked. They are probably stuck on a Core i5 or worse. Remember,people bought a Core i7 as a hedge to give some more leeway in more threaded games - its why a Core i7 7700K still can push playable framerates in games which should favour a R7 1800X or Core i7 6900K.
Also,another thing the GTX980TI will still have some value - people will still buy them secondhand for SLI setups,but once Vega is released and Nvidia does drop prices,the value will start to go down much quicker.
If the OP hedges their bets at the right time,the upgrade might not be as expensive as it might look initially.
But there is another option - the OP just sticks with what they have and puts their money in the bank.
The longer they wait,the bigger a CPU or GPU upgrade they will get.
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On the other hand it was only a short while ago people were saying an i5 is your best bet for gaming. That quickly moved onto i7. It wont be long before 6 cores are needed. Whether its zen or zen+ nobody knows but its something to bear in mind.