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Official RX580,RX570,RX560 and RX550 series review thread

Seanspeed said:
Where you're wrong is that 580 prices aren't going to drop down once 480 stocks are sold out.
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People said the same of all cards - they won't drop down. They will - if that is the case we would have never seen even a GTX780 eventually drop down from £500 to like £170 on OcUK,or a R9 290 Tri-X go from £380 to £170,etc.

We had the same thing about the bargain R9 390 and GTX970 cards,the RX480 and GTX1060 will never drop that low. Except I have seen RX480 8GB and GTX1060 6GB cards for like £180 to £200.

Take the crap pound into comparison and the special offer RX480/GTX1060 cards are even cheaper than those cheap R9 290 Tri X cards in 2015 and have more VRAM.

Remember the custom RX480 8GB cards started at closer to £240 to £250.

Some were actually like nearly £300 last year.

The Asus Strix RX470 8GB my mate bought launched at £230 and it was that price in January. He got it for under £170 recently.

Graphics cards are in fact some of the worst computer parts for holding value on average.

The only way they won't drop is if the pound suddenly tanks in value massively,but its been holding at the same level for months,and despite this prices of the RX480 and GTX1060 still dropped from launch anyway and that is for aftermarket cards.

AMD has enough RX470/RX480 cards they will want to clear - the RX580/RX570 make it look better value so people will buy those instead without AMD needing to drop the price more.

Give it some time,and Nvidia launching the revised GTX1060 MK2,prices will re-adjust themselves downwards a bit.

I am sorry but we go through this same cycle at nearly every launch.
 
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humbug said:
If AMD don't sell many they will drop in price.
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Exactly and its not like Nvidia has a faster GTX1060 coming out either! :p

I knew mates who bought RX480 cards last summer since they were worried the price would go up due to exchange rates(even though they could have waited),and during Black Friday people got those aftermarket RX470 4GB cards for like £160 to £170 in droves since they thought it was not a bad deal. Fast forward a few months you could have gotten an aftermarket RX480 8GB for like £180 to £200 or an aftermarket RX480 4GB for close to £160 to £170. Heck,I have seen one model of RX580 4GB and 8GB card advertised for not far off their RX480 versions and that is with launch price gouging.

There are plenty of RX470 and RX480 cards still in the channel with free games too,which the RX570 and RX580 has just made look much better value all of a sudden,and AMD has more chance of shifting them without any more price cutting.

I still remember this has been done before - remember when the HD6800 series launched,you could already get better HD5850 deals,but once they ran out the HD6850 for example dropped in price. HD7950 special offers being better value than the R9 280,etc. GTX970 deals being better than an RX480,etc.

Give it some time,with Nvidia launching a faster GTX1060 and I expect the prices will drop.

Until then the RX470/RX480/GTX1060 deals including free games are what most people will be buying anyway.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
They were £230 on OcUK IIRC,so that equates to nearly £290 now.

Remember when the RX480 and GTX1060 were released people were going on how the GTX970 was better value,and also how a few years ago you could get an R9 290 4GB for as little as £180 on clearance,and how things had stagnated.

When the R9 390 was released people were saying no point getting that since an R9 290 is under £200 or a cheap R9 290X had more shaders,etc.

We have these same arguments 9/10 a new card is released - plenty of times you find older cards knocked down in price being better value,hence why I said the following:



I told my mate who wanted a new card to get a Asus Strix RX470 8GB which was on offer only a few days ago.

Taking advantage of the RX480,RX470 and GTX1060 clearance offers is the best thing to do currently.
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Yes but the issue is normally you just get one round of this. As you have said we already had this last year with the 480. Now we have yet another release that offers very, very little over the 290/390 series.
 
Scougar said:
They do it often enough for it to be planned.
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Planned because yields of big chips on new process nodes are never that great, especially when the process is extremely new like the TSMC16FF+ node Nvidia was using at a time AMD fanboys were saying it would be impossible.
 
jubei said:
How many times can they increment a number with barely any performance gains :/
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How is this different than what anyone else is doing? and why is it suddenly a problem just because team red is doing it? you are getting cards that have stock speeds near the max of what the RX 400 series would overclock on average. If you are already on a rx 400 series you look the other way and wait or go nvidia if the wait is killing you so no big deal. I can understand the rage if it was a pure rebrand/rebadge but since its not and is instead a refinement of the process why shouldn't they release it? It is not like they are trying to hide the fact that its just a polished polaris 10 chip. I find this release dull like so many others but i have absolutely no problem with it.
 
jubei said:
How many times can they increment a number with barely any performance gains :/
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4 generations and counting. 290 / 390 / 480 / 580, all in the similar ballpark of performance ( +/- 10%) for nearly 4 years, with only the Fury offering much difference/more performance.

Vega better be good!
 
Nvidia are not much different either with 780/970 and 1060. Just that the AMD ones keep getting better over time unlike the Nvidia 780 and 970 that are falling back in performance. In a way AMD are taking more flack for having an architecture that's stayed more current and not dropped off.
 
I fail to see the point in the 580? higher power consumption, barely any faster than the 480? why not just cut the price on the 480 and job is a good one. Seriously They've had Fury x on he market for nearly 2 years now and they haven't managed to beat it's performance whilst Nvidia are virtually double the performance with 1080 Ti and TXP :/
 
TheRealDeal said:
Nvidia are not much different either with 780/970 and 1060. Just that the AMD ones keep getting better over time unlike the Nvidia 780 and 970 that are falling back in performance. In a way AMD are taking more flack for having an architecture that's stayed more current and not dropped off.
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780 Ti is still relevant as is the 970 if you do some youtube searching :) 780 Ti can keep up with the 480
 
So after reading a few reviews it looks like the 580 was a fail waiting to happen. Power consumption increased considerably but performance didnt. Its just like an Overclocked card. I dont see the benefit of the new finfet at work here unless iv missed something?
 
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