Le Vote, France start to elect a new president

datalol-jack said:
Third way politics, xenophobia to whip up marginal voters, economic protectionism and heavy dollops of anti-semitism, Islamophobia and just your rank level Vichyist twaddle, with some plagiarised and 4chan material. Yeah, I think that's a duck we know the quack of quite well, thanks.
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Absolute tripe. Can't believe you're even typing these words.
 
Still surprised she got >30%, thats a lot of angry voters and rather large non-voting contingent is present here as well. Like I said, nothing ends until it really does.

Her father got 0.75% the first time he ran in the 70s, then 14.39% in 1988 (1st round), 15% in 1995 (1st round), 16.86% in 2002 (1st round) and 17.79% in (2nd round). Then he lost support to ~10% in the next election (during a rather nice boom i should say, and probably because Sarkozy was such a massive personality), he retired and gave up to his daughter who during recession gained back all the lost votes to ~17% again.

Now she commands 35%... that's huge, if we talk in terms of just increasing vote share from 1st to 2nd round she gained ~15% while her father could only muster a measly 1%.

Like the Tories with UKIP (only more advanced), the other parties will concede policies due to this and FN will get what they want anyway.
 
Viva La France! Congratulations to Macron the brilliant rank outsider, love how this guy came from nothing and built himself up to where he is now to become President.
 
StriderX said:
Still surprised she got >30%, thats a lot of angry voters and rather large non-voting contingent is present here as well. Like I said, nothing ends until it really does.

Her father got 0.75% the first time he ran in the 70s, then 14.39% in 1988 (1st round), 15% in 1995 (1st round), 16.86% in 2002 (1st round) and 17.79% in (2nd round). Then he lost support to ~10% in the next election (during a rather nice boom i should say, and probably because Sarkozy was such a massive personality), he retired and gave up to his daughter who during recession gained back all the lost votes to ~17% again.

Now she commands 35%... that's huge, if we talk in terms of just increasing vote share from 1st to 2nd round she gained ~15% while her father could only muster a measly 1%.

Like the Tories with UKIP (only more advanced), the other parties will concede policies due to this and FN will get what they want anyway.
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I don't think they could successfully govern France, they are a party of opposition. They'll poll well until they have to prove themselves.
 
scorza said:
The reason you have to keep copying and pasting the same stuff over and over is because no-one believes it anymore. People aren't dumb, they can see what's going on with their own eyes. Since you're in Canada, why don't you go and show those stats to a First Nationer and see if it matters to them.
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No, most people believe them. The problem is the alt right/alt fact/lies brigade don't want to believe anything that doesn't conform to their narrow opinions.

As for the second half of your paragraph what does that even mean? Are you conceding that crime has nothing to do with the complaints people have and it's just a diversionary tactic to make those that just don't like foreigners feel like more warm and cozy inside about their views?
 
StriderX said:
Still surprised she got >30%, thats a lot of angry voters and rather large non-voting contingent is present here as well. Like I said, nothing ends until it really does.

Her father got 0.75% the first time he ran in the 70s, then 14.39% in 1988 (1st round), 15% in 1995 (1st round), 16.86% in 2002 (1st round) and 17.79% in (2nd round). Then he lost support to ~10% in the next election (during a rather nice boom i should say, and probably because Sarkozy was such a massive personality), he retired and gave up to his daughter who during recession gained back all the lost votes to ~17% again.

Now she commands 35%... that's huge, if we talk in terms of just increasing vote share from 1st to 2nd round she gained ~15% while her father could only muster a measly 1%.

Like the Tories with UKIP (only more advanced), the other parties will concede policies due to this and FN will get what they want anyway.
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Yea, that's a huge gain against an unpopular inexperienced centrist candidate.....it's still a huge loss
 
If En Marche can't get enough seats in the upcoming elections then they will be even more disfunctional than his predecessor.
 
robfosters said:
I was going to post exactly this. I am opposed to uncontrolled immigration. How does that make me a fascist? Please explain.
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I doubt there are many people not opposed to uncontrolled immigration. It's "your" version of "uncontrolled immigration" that causes you to be labelled a "facist".

It's usually when the version of uncontrolled immigration revolves around race, religion and spurious claims about criminality that isn't borne out by any actual facts, backed up by a group of people that have trouble writing more than a sentence and/or any sort of coherent argument.

The reality is immigration is essential for the continuation of the current western way of life. Unless we can significantly increase native birth rates western nations will continue to accept large numbers of immigrants in.

Edit: the irony of the part of my post arguing about coherency being incoherent...:D
 
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He's also yet to define a clear identity he asserts as either European or English. Mostly we get some crap by negation (not Muslim; not Polish; etc.). Junk.

Uther said:
I dunno, you've posted some twaddle today, are you drunk! :p
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Alas, GD is not the same without Absinthe!

Anyhoo, here's the breakdown for the bean counters:

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The Republican front which stopped Le Pen is stronger with older voters and women. Plenty of room for communism to grow among the young. FN's vote is ageing. And that's precisely the opposite of what the frothers of the far right want. Frankly, for a proper debate on the EU and its institutions re France, Macron v Melenchon should've been the match. Le Pen brought nothing but memes and weird tics.
 
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