Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

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I despise fox hunting and I'm happy that it's currently banned, however the fact Blair banned it undemocratically and against huge public opposition (it's the second most unpopular thing the government has done this century, the first being the Iraq war) never sat well with me and so I'm open to it actually being debated/decided by parliament. If you support democracy that means you support it even when it results in things you dislike, otherwise what's the point.
For animal cruelty in happy for democracy to take a back seat
they have, proper taxation of companies trading in this country. the Amazons, Apples and Starbucks of the world. Removing the tax loopholes the toffs keep exploiting as well.

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Something tells me it won't be enough. But closing loopholes for offshore companies is a must
 
they have, proper taxation of companies trading in this country. the Amazons, Apples and Starbucks of the world. Removing the tax loopholes the toffs keep exploiting as well.

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I'm sure we went through this already - in a global market you can just act alone and start taxing the big corps because they just up sticks and base themselves out of another country (with the jobs lost in the process).
 
I'm sure we went through this already - in a global market you can just act alone and start taxing the big corps because they just up sticks and base themselves out of another country (with the jobs lost in the process).
ohh yes, i'm sure amazon and starbucks will refuse to have a tax on their PROFITS and never trade here again. get a clue.

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All I've heard from labour is no more tax yet all this extra money. Surely at some point they have to say where it's coming from.

And I'm not convinced whacking it all on companies is a good idea with brexit already pushing some biggies out

Labour have said no tax rises for those earning less than £80k (i.e. 95% of the population).

It looks like they'll try to raise the money they need through taxing the top 5% more, through reversing cuts in corporation tax and through being tougher on firms that evade/aggressively avoid paying tax.
 
ohh yes, i'm sure amazon and starbucks will refuse to have a tax on their PROFITS and never trade here again. get a clue.

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err if you didnt know - in a global market they seem to not make any profit here and move that money abroad to pay it somewhere else
 
I despise fox hunting and I'm happy that it's currently banned, however the fact Blair banned it undemocratically and against huge public opposition (it's the second most unpopular thing the government has done this century, the first being the Iraq war) never sat well with me and so I'm open to it actually being debated/decided by parliament. If you support democracy that means you support it even when it results in things you dislike, otherwise what's the point.

61% supported the ban at the time:
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...pol-mos-FoxHuntCivilLiberitiesDemo-040920.pdf

Or, in this one, 72% thought it should not be legal:
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/research...-Shows-Public-Support-For-Ban-On-Hunting.aspx

Facts.
 
All I've heard from labour is no more tax yet all this extra money. Surely at some point they have to say where it's coming from.

And I'm not convinced whacking it all on companies is a good idea with brexit already pushing some biggies out

We already have one of the lowest corporation tax rates in the world and we planning on dropping it lower, year by year. France and Germany are both 33% for example and we are 19%.

https://home.kpmg.com/xx/en/home/se...x-rates-online/corporate-tax-rates-table.html

In fact compared to what it used to be before the Tories came in, the drop in corporation tax means £18 billion less revenue for the Treasury each year. Each 1% reduction reduces the revenue by another £2b if I remember correctly.

Of course its not as simple as that, like most things, as the argument goes that a lower rate of corporation tax means businesses can afford to invest more and encourages other businesses to move here which then both increases the tax revenue to the Treasury. And as you have noted with some companies looking at perhaps moving due to Brexit, making it less appealing to them on corporation tax to stay here might not be a good idea. Suppose a lot depnds on the Brexit we have. If we still have a customs and tariff free trade with the EU post Brexit (we wont), nobody will need to move anyway.

I am not convinced that we need to keep lowering the corporation tax rate, year on year though. The revenue can only be replaced ultimately by taxes on people one way or another (Tory stealth tax like Insurance tax which is now 12%)
 
err if you didnt know - in a global market they seem to not make any profit here and move that money abroad to pay it somewhere else
what's your point? that's the loophole - close it. because they definitely do make profit here otherwise, according to everyone saying that these companies will move elsewhere if we tax them, why would they operate here for NO profit? it's a self-defeating argument.

As opposed to...

Brexit means Brexit; Red, white and blue Brexit; Strong and stable, strong and stable
no, these are all meaningless statements :confused: i get the feeling you think i'm pro-brexit or pro-conservative or something. you saying you reckon that tax isn't going to be enough is based on bugger all is my point.

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what's your point? that's the loophole - close it. because they definitely do make profit here otherwise, according to everyone saying that these companies will move elsewhere if we tax them, why would they operate here for NO profit? it's a self-defeating argument.


no, these are all meaningless statements :confused: i get the feeling you think i'm pro-brexit or pro-conservative or something.

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You close it - they move the money to Ireland or Luxembourg and pay the tax there. Theres a fine balance between what you can do offset against how much money you will get out of them. Its not as simple as you think it is
 
Actually its dropped. 61% in favour of the ban when the ban was introduced and the last poll in 2015 this had dropped to 51%. 52% in urban and 47% in rural so even rural areas the majority still want a ban.

If true, how ironic that Brexit still happens but fox hunting will return on similar percentages!:p
 
You close it - they move the money to Ireland or Luxembourg and pay the tax there. Theres a fine balance between what you can do offset against how much money you will get out of them. Its not as simple as you think it is
I know what you're saying, they're jigging the books to make it seem like there's no profit being made here and saying they're making all their profit somewhere they can pay far less tax - but you can't tell me there's absolutely nothing than can be done. it's a disgrace they pay so little

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Sorry I don't understand the question :confused:
Well, I;ve provided some factual links - surveys showing that fox hunting ban was strongly supported at the time it was enacted.

You've dismissed those facts under the erroneous belief that 1000+ samples are inadequate, but haven't offered up opposing facts. Where are those facts to support your position?
 
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