Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

Who will you vote for?

  • Conservatives

  • Labour

  • Lib Dem

  • UKIP

  • Other (please state)

  • I won't be voting


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If you pass on going to university because of the current tuition fees, then you don't deserve to be there in the first place. The loan repayments are completely negligible, and most won't pay them back anyway.

I really don't understand the incessant moaning. They could always live in the US where some parents have to remortgage their property to be able to put their kids through university...

Or you could live in pretty much any other European country (like Scotland for example...) where university education is either free or costs a few hundred pounds, not tens of thousands.
 
Or you could live in pretty much any other European country (like Scotland for example...) where university education is either free or costs a few hundred pounds, not tens of thousands.
It's not free, other peoples taxes are paying for it.

If you want a good degree to get a good job then there's no issue with loaning money you will easily be able to pay back. The only problem is if you want to do a mickey mouse course with no real value as then you won't be able to use it to get a good job and will have difficulty paying it back.
 
£40k debt is a great start to life when you are looking to get on the ridiculous UK property ladder.

I really don't see how anyone can argue against, decent free, education. It only benefits the UK work force and makes it far more attractive world wide.

It would take a generation of moaning and I don't wanna pay for it's to get over it, but after that it's no problem.

The tax payed over your life would easily cover costs.
 
I really don't see how anyone can argue against, decent free, education. It only benefits the UK work force and makes it far more attractive world wide.
Because it doesn't, it requires the money to come from taxes which means there's less tax money to spend on things of value. And to make it worse, if you give people the option to go to college/university for free and do a mickey mouse course with no real value then many of them will choose to do just that, and that reduces the amount of people actually learning something of value.

Thanks to the Blair years this country is already dependant on foreign labour in many areas to make up our shortfall of skilled workers, we don't need to make the problem worse.
 
£40k debt is a great start to life when you are looking to get on the ridiculous UK property ladder.

I really don't see how anyone can argue against, decent free, education. It only benefits the UK work force and makes it far more attractive world wide.

It would take a generation of moaning and I don't wanna pay for it's to get over it, but after that it's no problem.

The tax payed over your life would easily cover costs.

I'm not against free education. However where does the funding come from? Something like 250,000 18 year olds go to uni every year. At courses around the £10,000 per year mark that's £2.5bn a year. Just for the noobies. Then you got 2nd year people, 3rd year. Graduates staying on, adults returning to education.

Let the top 10, 20% go to university for free. Based on exams results and what skills are needed at the time.

The total debt it's a non issue. It doesn't count against you on mortgage applications or other credit applications. The amounts you pack back are negligible compared to earnings...
 
Wow you don't have faith in our countrymen do you.
Even when given the chance to educate themselves to fill all these skilled jobs you are certain people will fail.
It might actually take a bit of communication between industry and education to make sure places are getting well educated recruits.
Scrap the amount of places offering media studies and BSc. Hons in Klingon.
 
16 year olds don't know **** about politics. I should know, I was one a few years ago. You learn a lot between 16 and 19.

Hearing some of the reasons people gave for voting in the referendum makes me think a lot of people generally don't really know much about politics so on that basis it seems fair that 16 year olds should get to vote. Let's be honest, if recent elections / referendums are anything to go by most probably won't bother anyway if they turn out in similar numbers to other young adults
 
Wow you don't have faith in our countrymen do you.
Even when given the chance to educate themselves to fill all these skilled jobs you are certain people will fail.
Re-read the post, I'm saying that stopping them educating themselves and filling skilled jobs by making it much more appealing to go do a valueless university course for free is a bad idea.
 
£40k debt is a great start to life when you are looking to get on the ridiculous UK property ladder.

I really don't see how anyone can argue against, decent free, education. It only benefits the UK work force and makes it far more attractive world wide.

It would take a generation of moaning and I don't wanna pay for it's to get over it, but after that it's no problem.

The tax payed over your life would easily cover costs.

Because as with most things, when the government gives things away, it's abused. No one is against funding for STEM subjects and the like, people are against tax payers funding students to get drunk for 3 years while they study some worthless degree.
 
Wow you don't have faith in our countrymen do you.
Even when given the chance to educate themselves to fill all these skilled jobs you are certain people will fail.
It might actually take a bit of communication between industry and education to make sure places are getting well educated recruits

Currently places for medical courses are limited due to cost to the NHS/education budget. If you take more money from the budget to fund other courses for free, then places for the more expensive courses will drop.

Unfortunately for us, the more expensive to teach courses that have the most limited places, are also the ones we require graduates from the most. I would love everyone to have free education but the money has to come from somewhere. Make all courses free and you deny many more people from pursuing pricey courses.
 
I personally think if you want a rewards system, it makes more sense to refund the cost of the loan if the student is shown to be making a significant contribution to society, after the degree.

I like this idea a lot. Certainly as an incentive to stay and contribute to this country following completion of the degree. If you leave within 5 years of graduation you are liable to repay your education, why should other countries benefit from us spending taxes on training up professionals for them?

I suppose that's a bit rich coming from a Brit though, we nick skilled people from all over the place currently because we don't produce our own.
 
Because as with most things, when the government gives things away, it's abused. No one is against funding for STEM subjects and the like, people are against tax payers funding students to get drunk for 3 years while they study some worthless degree.
Precisely. If you as a student don't think your higher education/degree is a worth while enough investment in your future to pay for why would you think the rest of us should?
 
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