No your thread was an attempt to discredit Corbyn (rightly or wrongly) so should be in the election thread whereas this thread is about what May wants to do to the internet. IMO.
Theresa May to create new internet that would be controlled and regulated by government
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It wasn't and 'attempt' I think his actions alone discredit him...
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It's quite an interesting topic really, on the one hand who would argue against the reduction of terrorism or kiddy porn. On the other how long or how much of a step is it to manipulate the media, shut down discussion, ideas or opposition.
Scary indeed.
Scary indeed.
Move the Corbyn/IRA talk over to the main Election thread please, a mistake was made in the merging.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-calls-general-election-on-june-8th.18776787/
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-calls-general-election-on-june-8th.18776787/
The whole idea is dumb. Even if they convince everyone to put "backdoors" in to encryption (making things like internet banking highly insecure), terrorists could just encrypt/code the text itself. Then use an offline application to decode it.
All they will do is push more and more people in to using the dark web and going to even more extreme measures to hide their identity. Until they shut the snoopers out entirely.
All they will do is push more and more people in to using the dark web and going to even more extreme measures to hide their identity. Until they shut the snoopers out entirely.
Your second quote would seem to contradict your first somewhat, c'mon, you can't play both sides of the argument - that's just cheating!
How are they contradictory? They're discussing two totally different points. The first is pointing out that governments have much more power over citizens than companies while the second is talking about Republican feelings on privacy.
I got that impression too, otherwise he isn't the brightest spark in the bush (not because of his ideas, but his complete obliviousness to major news events in recent years).
Yeah they would have to regulate VPNs and the encryption used for e-commerce, etc. or anyone that was upto no good would just hide behind those systems (i.e. setup a shop as a front to use the encryption) - never mind being able to offline encode messages into an innocent looking block of text that was handled by offline software at each end, etc. - the whole thing is a joke unless the real goal is over-reaching power over the politics and people of this country.
Well...there are a few on here who might argue against one of those from some of their previous posts.
However yes, the media should never be state controlled at all. Sadly the state seems to interfere a fair bit in some outlets in this country.
Considering the main proponent of the "porn filter" under Cameron was convicted of doing exactly what he "wanted" to stop, why anyone would trust these disgusting people is beyond me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-cameron-aide-to-be-sentenced-for-making-in/
So apparently if you're rich and one of Camerons mates, you can get away with not only being a complete lying **** (wrt to the legislation)... but also get away with paedophilia...nice. Hope everyone enjoys voting on the 8th, you get what you deserve.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-cameron-aide-to-be-sentenced-for-making-in/
So apparently if you're rich and one of Camerons mates, you can get away with not only being a complete lying **** (wrt to the legislation)... but also get away with paedophilia...nice. Hope everyone enjoys voting on the 8th, you get what you deserve.
Having different views doesn't make you stupid. Are the people who work for GCHQ stupid? You think they are looking at you and your inane posts on a forum, i say they aren't, they couldn't give a monkey about the average person.
Everyone is getting up in arms about this stuff but it's already happening, isn't it? Why are you all not making more of a issue of it? You've got a thread in a forum where you're all irate about it, what happens for the other 23 hours of the day, are you fighting it? Nope, you probably share a few links on FB.
As soon as open discussion is at risk then that's the time to get worried, but we're not even close, like i've said before some people just have different views.
Do you support a gun ban in a America?
The fact that your main defence in support of this proposal is that it's going on already illegally so don't see the issue with making it a law is absurd.
And you analysis of if it catches just one pedo or terrorist it will be worth it doesn't work. Having a police state and curfew and registration cards should cut crime down massively yet you would see that as too far.
We don't need draconian laws like this to catch criminals. Just target them.
Oh I agree, they do a great job so why do they need to monitor everybody?
Because it's getting worse? because they can't keep us safe otherwise, that would be my view i suppose.
The introduction of technology is a killer, this small percentage of deranged people have far more power nowadays than when they had sticks and stones to cause mayhem.
It took 19 people to bring the whole of America to its knees, killing nearly 3000 people
The introduction of technology is a killer, this small percentage of deranged people have far more power nowadays than when they had sticks and stones to cause mayhem.
It took 19 people to bring the whole of America to its knees, killing nearly 3000 people
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dunno about you, but i feel pretty damn safe, which my parents generation didn't (the troubles), their parents generation sure as hell didnt (bombs and rockets dropping on their homes), their parents generation sure as hell didn't (being stuck in a muddy trench with rotting feet and artillery shells landing all round)
compared to what a government can achieve terrorists are a drop in a very big ocean of blood....
Yea i feel safe as well. I attribute that to our state and what the intelligent services do. Of course governments can achieve far greater, we have a military. But our military isn't going to set off biochemical weapons on us.
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