Are We Too Soft In This Country? ........
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Tee hee! Hilarious.
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Some things we are too soft on. There should be no place in a country for those that have fundamental issues with it...we should pay a government elsewhere to take such people.
On the other hand its pretty harsh for normal criminals who invariably come from a less educated background. We imprison, then release.... With a criminal record that then hinders later chances (and often without solving the initial problem..)
On the other hand its pretty harsh for normal criminals who invariably come from a less educated background. We imprison, then release.... With a criminal record that then hinders later chances (and often without solving the initial problem..)
In fairness to the OP; the argument was framed somewhat exclusively around deportation of foreigners who are alleged criminals.
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Of course.
Good welfare system
Soft prison system
Soft police
Soft immigration laws
Soft population (lots of lefty loonies)
Breeding ground for trouble.
Good welfare system
Soft prison system
Soft police
Soft immigration laws
Soft population (lots of lefty loonies)
Breeding ground for trouble.
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Bloody foreigns going round and stealing all the appeals from hard working British criminals 
But it is completely understandable why you couldn't deport someone knowing full well that the deportation would result in things like an execution, especially if your countries laws condemn it.
But it is completely understandable why you couldn't deport someone knowing full well that the deportation would result in things like an execution, especially if your countries laws condemn it.
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Those that would trade freedom for security will deserve and have neither.
Also, did you know Britain wrote the echr? What you're asking for is akin to wanting to magna carter rescinded.
The ECHR is nothing to do with the EU. Being a signatory is a requirement of EU membership, but they are entirely separate treaties.
Me too, but the question is always; what laws should we have?
I know this, but it's ultimately a treaty enforced by another European court. Glad you agree there's no reason that we still have to be in it once we've left the EU and are an independent country again.
That's not what I said; it is a requirement for being in the EU, but that does not mean that we need to/should leave it once Brexit occurs.
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Well it's fortunate that there is almost zero chance that we'll be leaving the echr.
Look at the USA - who have the reverse of those values;
Poor welfare system
Hard prison system
Hard police
Hard immigration laws
I certainly wouldn't use the USA as a benchmark in how to run society.
Agreed, one of the reasons why we need to withdraw from it is detailed in the OP.
Most of them are alright as far as I am concerned, I personally wouldn't want to be deported if I had an appeal.
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The beauty of law is it applies to everyone, equally and fairly. The European council promotes democracy, law and human rights and long may it do so. Not much chance of us ditching that. 
Also has no relevance to Brexit.
Also has no relevance to Brexit.
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If they aren't British and commit a crime, they should be deported after they have served their sentence. I don't see what there is to appeal? They were guests and committed a crime, we don't need them.
Heck, we should be deporting any foreigner who doesn't have a job too, along with their dependants.
Heck, we should be deporting any foreigner who doesn't have a job too, along with their dependants.