Perhaps but they will likely get it back at some point. I just think those who lost everything should get more!
Tower block fire - london
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Perhaps but they will likely get it back at some point. I just think those who lost everything should get more!
It's there to help pay for necessities. It's not a compensation payment. I'd say it's fairly generous as a short term sum. If any of our houses or homes burned down and it wasn't our fault, we certainly wouldn't be getting it!
It's very likely everything on every floor is smoke damaged at least.
The press are dealing with this very badly imho, reporting things in a sensationalist manner either on purpose or because they simply don't understand what they are reporting on. The planning document which "SKY NEWS HAS SEEN!!!!!1111" which has no mention of the Reynobond FR product is a prime example. If you understand how planning policy works and how planning applications are put together you would know that you don't specify products at this stage, you are trying to give a broad idea of the mass, appearance, impact on the surrounding area etc etc. Reynobond is a group of products, not a single product and its been mentioned in the planning docs so that planners can look it up to see what it looks like, nothing more.
There's likely no mention of fire doors on the planning application, it doesn't mean they were omitted. Anything in a planning document is very loose, often you don't even need to mention a manufacturer, just a simple Aluminum Cassette cladding RAL 7016 would suffice.
I'm not making light of it, I personally think it will be shown to have been installed incorrectly or more that elements of required details were missing but reporting things as they are simply leads to confusion. I think the PE variant will likely be banned in the UK even though I am sure with correct detailing it would be absolutely fine.
There's likely no mention of fire doors on the planning application, it doesn't mean they were omitted. Anything in a planning document is very loose, often you don't even need to mention a manufacturer, just a simple Aluminum Cassette cladding RAL 7016 would suffice.
I'm not making light of it, I personally think it will be shown to have been installed incorrectly or more that elements of required details were missing but reporting things as they are simply leads to confusion. I think the PE variant will likely be banned in the UK even though I am sure with correct detailing it would be absolutely fine.
There is so much misinformation being published. On one hand you have the Independent claiming it wasn't fire rated then theres the Guardian saying it was fire rated. Pretty sure they switched sides at one point.
I have no idea which one is correct.
Pick whichever side agrees with your own personal beliefs and truths and defend it to your heart's content.
What most people seem to do in 2017.
Sad but true.
Both.There is so much misinformation being published. On one hand you have the Independent claiming it wasn't fire rated then theres the Guardian saying it was fire rated. Pretty sure they switched sides at one point.
I have no idea which one is correct
Seriously, when it comes to standards/rating/etc the same product can meet multiple and also fail to meet multiple. In this case the cladding had excellent fire protection, on the outside, however that didn't help because the fire came from the inside (between the building and the cladding) and ignited the flammable insulation behind the aluminium.
Ahh clearly I haven't been reading very well. I was under the impression the insulation itself was the fire rating in question.
We've been chatting about this in the office, simple intumescent barriers around the window reveals and at every floor plate level would stop it from spreading up the air gap as quickly as it did. It still would eventually burn up over time if it was left untended but it would be over a much greater period of time. Some thought would need to go into which panels could be used around the windows to stop it bridging the barriers. We have done this detail on the projects involving over clad systems. The insulation needs to be considered as well, as extruded or expanded polystyrene is often used.
Where is that being reported?
Can only hope the smoke got them quickly.
Youtube video. "a friend who works for the fire brigade"
If true I can't imagine the media wouldn't have picked up on it by now
.Assuming it is true how big are those rooms
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I don't think this is the only compensation they're going to get... and tbh.. despite all the moaning in the media it is quite clear the government is clearly making sure they're going to be well looked after - if you had a house fire by yourself and you didn't get loads of press coverage do you think the government would give you 5k for general expenses and promise to help with the funeral costs of any relatives who died or would you have to rely on your own insurance policy
I think most could if they were prepared to leave London or even, heaven forbid, move out of a city and into a quiet countryside location that isn't in the commuter belt. It is the London trap that so many are caught in because they know no different and feel it's 'better than the other option' when actually, often, it isn't the case I suspect.