This is a load of Taqiyya (and smells as bad) pick up a bible and read it for yourself and you'll see none of those passages exist. It's a complete fabrication.
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This is a load of Taqiyya (and smells as bad) pick up a bible and read it for yourself and you'll see none of those passages exist. It's a complete fabrication.
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The Trinity was a concept introduced into Christianity at a much later stage. I believe ALL the prophets of ALL time preached the same message. God is ONE. We all pray to the God of Abraham which is what these religions are based upon.
But you renounce the words of the prophet Isa ibn Maryam because a kafir website tells you they understand it better than even your own scholars? Heh.
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Let's get back on topic.
I'm very familiar with the bible. I have two copies in the house along with the mormon version of events (as I have family who follow this version of christianity).
You can argue symantics all day long about what it actually means and 'theology' about verses but its all rubbish.
Point i'm making is anyone can take a verse out of context from any book and says its inciting violence. The Bible or any other religious scripture for that matter does contain incitement to violence - they all do but within very specific contexts (i.e. punishment for something etc).
If it worries you that much and you really believe that it islam teaches terrorism, even though the overwhelming majority of practicing muslims don't engage in terrorism, Then i give some Iman's a call I suggest you write down what bothers your and have chat with them.
a) That wasn't the point you were making
b) That wasn't out of context, that's completely made up. As a Catholic of 40 years i can tell you it's complete BS.
I've have a copy of the Koran that i read in my house for 15 years, doesn't make me an expert and it clear you know squat about Christianity
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Simply not true, Buddhist and Taoist scripture are explicitly pacifist, all religions are not equal.
Are they? So why are mynamar muslims being murdered by the local buddhists? Burning them in their homes, and attempting to ethnically cleanse the area?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence
ALL religions suffer the same issue - Humans twisting them to fit their own dirty agendas
To quote that same article:
Funny how those peaceful buddhists in Myanmar are killing muslims left right and centre
.Wow, way to change the topic, we are talking about the scripture inciting violence, not people ignoring the scripture and being violent.
You do realise people break the rules of their religion and sin right?
WHOLEY CRAP ROB - Are we agreeing on something again
With regards to buddhism yes its main core teaching is NOT to kill. Monks are strictly forbidden from violence. However Buddhist Kings of the past were well known for their violence in contrast.
There was one item I came across in their scriptures which clearly states killing a specific type of person does not incur any penalty (karma)
The verse doesn't exactly promote killing someone but it can be and is used for false-justification. Again bringing us back to the point we've just agreed on. The same goes for the quran though - any verses talking about killing someone other than for spreading corruption across the earth (same as above) were due to a specific war being waged at the time and is NOT applicable to this day and age.
I think icchantika refers to someone who is spreading corruption etc - not just a non-believer. However there you go - this verse is quoted by mynamar buddhists as their justification to fight the mynamar muslims claiming they are 'corrupting the land'. It's different for monks though I believe.
I'm not as well versed with buddhism as I am with the other major religions so I could be wrong here - I've not had time to 100% verify it. Anyways I digress bigtime, sorry.
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What's "Taqiyya" about a website you you disagree with or flatly is wrong.
Given Taqiyya is "denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution" not sure what that has to to with a website making false claims?
It's usually used by right wing nutters across the pond who intentionally misuse the term to slander Muslims and Islam? Pretty disgusting you choose a thread like this to further your anti Muslim narrative given that was the mindset of the terrorist.
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Again as the last thread why are we (as in known racists on this forum) discussing Islam and its negatives / positives in a thread about a right wing terrorist killing Muslims?
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And those will generally be recorded on official statistics, especially if they were perpetrated in a stable country.
As soon as anything involves Islam or immigration it seems to bring the crazies/conspiracy theorists out in force.
Personally I'd be extremely unhappy, just as in any other situation where my other had died or was seriously hurt. What I wouldn't do is go out and start running over innocent people because they have some form of commonality with the murderer.
Classy:
Son of Finsbury Park van hire company owner says: ‘It’s a shame we don’t hire out tanks’
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/20/son-o...its-a-shame-they-dont-hire-out-tanks-6720775/
Son of Finsbury Park van hire company owner says: ‘It’s a shame we don’t hire out tanks’
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/20/son-o...its-a-shame-they-dont-hire-out-tanks-6720775/
"Muslims" (don't you mean terrorists/ISIS here), hoped for retaliation and isolationist policies against Muslims in the west to help draw more people to their "cause".
Seems to be working "nicely" from this attack and the amount of bile directed at the Muslim community - that almost entirely have nothing to do with the attacks. This attack was just the tip of the iceberg, there's been lower level attacks and persecution going on for some years now.
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