What watch do you wear?
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Looks likew he's shipped the singles first. I shared a twin set with Skidder and they're supposed to be going out this week. Initial reports seem good, one or two complaints about consistency of lume, a shiny buckle instead of brushed on the rubber strap but mostly positive.I too went for the blue. Mine gets delivered tomorrow
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Yup, you should.
Well, after randomly suggesting it to someone else, I am now pretty in love with the Oris Artelier Complication and am considering it as my dress watch. Such a fantastic and harmonious design, beautiful even, with all of the complications that I personally find useful (date, moonphase, GMT dial). Low 38 hour power reserve but meh, not a deal breaker.
Oris Artelier Complication https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/oris-artelier-complication/01-781-7703-4051-07-5-21-70fc
I would say it looks better than pretty much anything have seen up to £6/7k, and can be had for around £1'250 with leather and £1'350 with metal bracelets. Grey market even cheaper. If anyone can suggest similar watches that look better from respected Swiss manufacturers then I would love to see them!
Oris Artelier Complication https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/oris-artelier-complication/01-781-7703-4051-07-5-21-70fc
I would say it looks better than pretty much anything have seen up to £6/7k, and can be had for around £1'250 with leather and £1'350 with metal bracelets. Grey market even cheaper. If anyone can suggest similar watches that look better from respected Swiss manufacturers then I would love to see them!
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When you buy your watches do you really think you are getting additional performance, from a certain watchmaker, that makes it worth the spend?
My Casio illuminator will blow your mind
I hate the idea of buying something based on mere heritage only. I have some expensive equipment that is just grossly more than what is necessary for my needs so I guess I can't talk
it's just with watches there is no performance benefit.Edit - sorry I thought this was in the general discussion thread for some reason... what a dunce. I didn't mean to 'troll' the watch aficionados, apologies.
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When you buy your watches do you really think you are getting additional performance, from a certain watchmaker, that makes it worth the spend?
My Casio illuminator will blow your mind
I hate the idea of buying something based on mere heritage only. I have some expensive equipment that is just grossly more than what is necessary for my needs so I guess I can't talk
i think you have to view high end watches as art.
no mechanical watch no matter the cost, no matter the supplier will ever beat the accuracy of a 3 quid piece of qaurtz lcd **** you bought down the market.
so you have to look atr it as art, what is the perception of the maker/artists, are they current and do they have a "heritage" its about resale value and "perception" nothing is to do with quality (no one ever opens up their watch to check the machining) it is l;ike art, is the signature good or not.
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Something thing de beers diamonds..
huh? sorry im noit sure if you're too drunk or i am?
i assume its me as this is the evening for me but still
Yeah that's probably right
Yeah that's probably right
"no one cares if the bag is Gucci all they care about is the signature".
While I won't answer nitefly's numbnuts post about his Casio vs a luxury watch, I can answer your post here which, while I got the gist, didn't feel was fully accurate from the perspective of someone who appreciates horology.
Of course it's also about quality... some watch manufacturers have features, movements and detailing that are a clear step above other manufacturers, some are even unique in what they produce. Knowing and valuing the quality of a movement doesn't relate to if you can see it or not, although transparent casebacks do allow you to visually appreciate it to some extent. Some movements are incredibly thin and complex, feats of engineering, and they are usually only found in higher end watches. Knowing what is in the beating heart of your watch is in itself an important thing for many people.
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I would like it to be evening, and I would like to be drunk... Alas I'm not.huh? sorry im noit sure if you're too drunk or i am?
i assume its me as this is the evening for me but still
I was just alluding to luxury watches being clever marketing of products that are not intrinsically useful.
If a phone can be used easily now, or a 5 euro Casio can, then you can see how they're now pushing for art. ^^
I've now reported this to the mods as you are just trolling with these stupid and uninformed arguments. If you don't appreciate horology then fine, but don't be an ignorant so and so in a thread intended for people that do.
what i mean is its the perception of quality.
if i ask you what a "quality" manufacturer is you can im sure tell me what you and what is commonly respected as a quality watch.
but i doubt you or any other owner could ever actually tell me the quality of the manufacture because you do not know about metallurgy, engineering, watchmaking, or have ever dismantled and inspected the watch in question,. you know only reviews and advertising and perception.
i'll give you an example from my work.
an A320, you expect this plane worth about 120 million to be "quality" ? correct?
now engineering wise, material wise they are supremely high quality products. they operate at over 99% reliability.
yet a few years ago there was a rework project that was to remove the reinforcing plate for the engine mounts of several planes.
this was due to the fact that they had been improperly sealed.
no one from looking could ever have told. but once the paint was removed and the area cleaned the rework lads found they could remove a near 1 inch thick aluminum reinforcing plate with a 1" plastic scraper....
they literally scrapped the metal off it was so corroded and had to remove the fasteners (which are never meant to be removed) replace the plate, spigot etc and remount the engines.
that was because a few guys in the factory got the sealant depth wrong by a fraction of an inch.
quality on anything mechanical is pretty much impossible to determine without destructive testing as an end user
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yes exactly
i think that's unfair he has a point.
intrinsic use in this case would be accurate chronological function. which these watches fail on compared top cheaper electronic sources.
the only standard they can be judged on is jewelry/artistic merit.
as engineering/accuracy wise they all fail abysmally compared to a cheaper electronic stet up.
Not 'exactly' or 'unfair' at all, and you are de-railing the thread with pointless attempts at debating this. Go to the general watch thread, don't pollute this one.
please read the post before on teh previous page rich.
im not polluting anything im just saying these are jewelry /art pieces as you're completely unable to asses quality without the destruction of the products value.
judging their function as chronologically accurate they all fall well outside the standard for even a basic chronograph these days.
as jewelry/status symbols/investments they are suburb at their function though, assuming you pick the correct one.
this is the general watch threadA?
You are raising discussions that have been repeat ad nauseum for years, and you suddenly think it is worth discussing as though it is something new and unique? Newsflash: it has been argues to death by people more intelligent and knowledgeable than us and doesn't need to be repeated again. It really is pointless and simply detracts from the for the most part positive discussions and advice-giving we have had so far in the thread.
Well, after randomly suggesting it to someone else, I am now pretty in love with the Oris Artelier Complication and am considering it as my dress watch. Such a fantastic and harmonious design, beautiful even, with all of the complications that I personally find useful (date, moonphase, GMT dial). Low 38 hour power reserve but meh, not a deal breaker.
Oris Artelier Complication https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/oris-artelier-complication/01-781-7703-4051-07-5-21-70fc
I would say it looks better than pretty much anything have seen up to £6/7k, and can be had for around £1'250 with leather and £1'350 with metal bracelets. Grey market even cheaper. If anyone can suggest similar watches that look better from respected Swiss manufacturers then I would love to see them!
I have a similar dress watch, in that it has day/date, moonphase, gmt. It's the Longines master collection retrograde moonphase and i think it is a perfect dress watch. I may be a little biased though as it was a wedding day gift from my wife.
https://www.longines.com/watches/master-collection/l2-739-4-71-3