You are raising discussions that have been repeat ad nauseum for years, and you suddenly think it is worth discussing as though it is something new and unique? Newsflash: it has been argues to death by people more intelligent and knowledgeable than us and doesn't need to be repeated again. It really is pointless and simply detracts from the for the most part positive discussions and advice-giving we have had so far in the thread.
welcome to conversation?
its an art/jewellery thread. just like we where disusing it may as well be the "what bracelet you war" thread.
but please dont **** on about quality or engineering when you know both claims are truly false.
no engineer would conceive of a mechanical watch in this day and age, only a jeweler would.
maybe this should just be rolled into your fashion thread if that's how you feel?