Are gay folks getting too much attention?

[sp@rkles]

I agree, which is part of the reason why I think vehemently portraying it as more different, as more a thing that defines a person and is their identity and as something for which people should be proud of having a "right" group identity ("right" being whatever is fashionable at the time, as usual) is a bad approach.

It really all comes down to the individual and how they feel, there are some who feel that sexuality is a huge part of them and the way they Identify and others for whom it isn't a big deal.

I don't think any person from the whole lgbt community would like to be identified solely by their "label" of gay or bi or many of the other variations But for some people it is a big part of what makes them who they are and that's perfectly fine.

I guess we may just have different views on this however I can see your argument. For me it isn't portrayed as being different so much as a celebration of gay culture. I would say it's more of a celebration of one group of peoples culture rather than a celebration of being different.

 

[krooton]

I think what Asim said is wrong. 'normal' gays do receive homophobia.

Me and my husband dont fit the stereotype at all. We don't go out clubbing, never go to gay bars, we not into what is considered gay music (Madonna, Britney gaga or whoever is considered the icon these days), never dressed up in drag... In fact we hang around with one of my mates who's into dance an musical theatre.... He's straight and always gets mistaken for the one being gay.

Anyway... I would say we don't act effeminate in any way and yet we have been abused just for the sake of holding hands.

I don't like the stereotype of effeminate gays anyway. Some are the the most physically and mentally strong I know. It was a lot of the effeminate people that fought for our rights.

I'm pretty effeminate, to the point that prior to me getting my first girlfriend (admittedly a bit late in the day for most teenage boys) my parents actually though I was gay.

Super over-the-top camp can be annoying, but guess what, so can over-the-top oi-oi laddish "macho" behaviour, or super posh, or Essex girl, etc.

As annoying as someone might find one or many of these types of personas, it doesn't give the them the right to be violent or abusive towards those people.

Personally, I would rather be in a gay club surrounded by Louie-Spence-alikes than have to endure the lads and ladettes one finds in Magaluf/Malaga/Marbs/etc.

 

[Shocky-FM]

Yes, they get far to much time on screen. A few potentially great series have been ruined by it, some can get away it it like Game of Thrones but when the focus is only on these relationships I just can't stomach watching them, it's disgusting.

Anyone seen that series on Netflix called Sense 8? first episode of that was so uncomfortable to watch, pretty clear who the target audience is for that.

 

[krooton]

Yes, they get far to much time on screen. A few potentially great series have been ruined by it, some can get away it it like Game of Thrones but when the focus is only on these relationships I just can't stomach watching them, it's disgusting.

Anyone seen that series on Netflix called Sense 8? first episode of that was so uncomfortable to watch, pretty clear who the target audience is for that.

Lol, get with the times man, it's only 'too much screen time' if it irks you, for those of us that it doesn't irk there is no over-representation at all. Confirmation bias is a real thing.

 

[Tunney]

The way media portrays gays is literally ridiculous. David Walliams is a complete weirdo

David Williams is straight.

 

[Sliver]

David Williams is straight.

I think he's bi-sexual actually. I remember reading an article recently after his split with Lara Stone, where he was quoted as saying he'd be happy to settle down with a man. Not sure if serious though as he is a joker.

 

[Ayahuasca]

David Williams is straight.

'I had gay experiences as a child': David Walliams opens up about his sexuality

 

[dalehitchy1]

'I had gay experiences as a child': David Walliams opens up about his sexuality

I had a few straight experiences when I was young. I can assure you I'm 100% gay though.

 

[Narj]

Anyone seen that series on Netflix called Sense 8? first episode of that was so uncomfortable to watch, pretty clear who the target audience is for that.

You do realize who the Wachowskis are, right? Not surprising that there's a diverse array of characters.

I thought Sense-8 was pretty good. The gay stuff doesn't bother me, but there are some ridiculous, gratuitious scenes that I thought really weren't necessary or relevant to the story.

Regarding spoiling series, must admit that as open-minded as I am, Hollyoaks got ruined

 

[McGray]

The Hollyoaks ratio is way off lol.

 

[iamthenugget]

The Hollyoaks ratio is way off lol.

ive not seen that for years but yeah it was way off the charts for over exaggeration.

i may be in the minority but i know a couple of guys who are gay and for the most part you would never know and thats always been my experiance/opinion. never met anyone who is gay who is OTT like hollyoaks or certain other tv shows which in turn paints them in a bad light

 

[Ayahuasca]

I had a few straight experiences when I was young. I can assure you I'm 100% gay though.

That's pretty standard though, 2 guys in my year at school had girlfriends throughout before coming out in college. The other way around would suggest to me he is bi-sexual but prefers women.

 

[dalehitchy1]

ive not seen that for years but yeah it was way off the charts for over exaggeration.

i may be in the minority but i know a couple of guys who are gay and for the most part you would never know and thats always been my experiance/opinion. never met anyone who is gay who is OTT like hollyoaks or certain other tv shows which in turn paints them in a bad light

I don't watch TV much other than Game of Thrones... I saw a snippet of X factor when I was visiting a friend and saw those two really camp guys who barely wore any clothing. It was cringy as hell....

a lot of the media potray gays like that are overly camp when the ones I know are anything but that. They should show some of the 'bear community' lol.

 

[iamthenugget]

I don't watch TV much other than Game of Thrones... I saw a snippet of X factor when I was visiting a friend and saw those two really camp guys who barely wore any clothing. It was cringy as hell....

a lot of the media potray gays like that are overly camp when the ones I know are anything but that. They should show some of the 'bear community' lol.

this is exactly what i was trying to say.

if i went by the media i would be scared to be around gay men as apparently they are all into trying to turn straight guys while in reality they aint interested in straight men whatsoever.

if i were gay i would more than likely be disgusted at the way the media etc portrays us/them

 

[McGray]

ive not seen that for years but yeah it was way off the charts for over exaggeration.

i may be in the minority but i know a couple of guys who are gay and for the most part you would never know and thats always been my experiance/opinion. never met anyone who is gay who is OTT like hollyoaks or certain other tv shows which in turn paints them in a bad light

I was referring to the ratio of straight to gay rather than how anyone is portrayed.

 

[iamthenugget]

I was referring to the ratio of straight to gay rather than how anyone is portrayed.

ah sorrry my mistake, but yeah i get what u mean there as well. u mean the whole town isnt one way inclined

 

[Dis86]

I was referring to the ratio of straight to gay rather than how anyone is portrayed.

It's funny, I used to work in a call centre where I'd estimate 30% of the staff were openly gay.

Since then I've worked in engineering and he ratio is waaaaay down. Out of my last company of 600 there were openly 2 gay men and 1 woman. It wasn't an environmental thing, there was never any homophobia or the slightest bit of derogation, even when those individuals weren't around.
Current company everyone is straight. At least publically.

 

[robgmun]

It's funny, I used to work in a call centre where I'd estimate 30% of the staff were openly gay.

Since then I've worked in engineering and he ratio is waaaaay down. Out of my last company of 600 there were openly 2 gay men and 1 woman. It wasn't an environmental thing, there was never any homophobia or the slightest bit of derogation, even when those individuals weren't around.
Current company everyone is straight. At least publically.

While i was growing up in the 80's and 90's and always heard banded around that 10% of the population is gay or bi. But i'm starting to think while they're making more noise than ever i think 10% is an over-exaggeration. I did see one report say it was only about 3%. In my building we're over 3500 people and they held a pride event and only about 100 people turned up. And most of those were straight people turning up to support.

 

[TheLegendOfMart]

Why do they have to single people out like this, as if they need special attention?

I know if I was a gay man I'd be seriously miffed.

You aren't so don't presume to speak for us.

We need special attention because people like you think giving us the same rights that you have is some how super special, extra rights, more rights than you have. The best rights!

People who are overtly gay and proud are doing it to spite people like you. For all the kids who got beat up at school purely for their sexuality, people who get beat up and murdered on the street for holding hands or being a bit camp, people who get refused service in businesses, people who up until recently couldn't even marry get 'civil unioned' to their partner, who didn't have the same rights and protections under law for spouses.

Especially in pride month I hope the media/people ram this gay **** so far down peoples throats they can grab the foot that is kicked up their ass. If they don't like it then tough **** you are the reason it happens.

 

[robgmun]

You aren't so don't presume to speak for us.

We need special attention because people like you think giving us the same rights that you have is some how super special, extra rights, more rights than you have. The best rights!

People who are overtly gay and proud are doing it to spite people like you. For all the kids who got beat up at school purely for their sexuality, people who get beat up and murdered on the street for holding hands or being a bit camp, people who get refused service in businesses, people who up until recently couldn't even marry get 'civil unioned' to their partner, who didn't have the same rights and protections under law for spouses.

Especially in pride month I hope the media/people ram this gay **** so far down peoples throats they can grab the foot that is kicked up their ass. If they don't like it then tough **** you are the reason it happens.

This is the kind of attitude that makes things worse not better. You're the root cause of people getting ****** off and creating homophobia when none existed before. So don't be surprised when you get knocked back on your heels when people don't always welcome you when you display this kind of attitude.