Are gay folks getting too much attention?

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sports_brah said:
...I clearly put heterosexual.

My point is that folks should just get on with their lives. I think homosexuality is a shame because of the lack of having children, having the natural diversity of another gender etc but that's not my problem.
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I just don't really like overt references to either. I find it distasteful with women/men wearing overly camp stuff to be off putting in a public place........the same as I would a straight couple.




Agree.

Frankly homosexuals should be more worried about a large influx of an intolerant religion. That's going to be a concern in a few years!
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The thing is, religion these days just accept anything and everything other than ...you know, traditional evil.
As a society we're forced to tolerate anything and everything at any cost what so ever or else we're called something be it racist, bigot, xenophobe, sinner, evil, hater, etc etc you know?
So religious books get re-worded.

I'd be very, very surprised if anyone on this forum is not a atheist. I mean come on, Star Gate TV series and Star Trek has BY FAR more logic, by far than any religious book... by an absolute landslide.
 
Personally I am disagreeable with anyone displaying affection in public straight or gay (anything more than hand holding, hugs or pecks has no place IMO, and should be kept behind closed doors).

Personally shocked to hear that members of the LGBT community still get physically assaulted etc, the last time I heard about this was in the 90s when a gay friend of mine got glassed in a pub in St Albans.

Honestly I still find it hard to watch a couple of men kiss and embrace. Does this make me a homophobic? I don't think so, its just a reaction to something that sits in opposition to what I find attractive. I wouldn't find it offensive it a gay man or woman said that they felt awkward watching a straight couple share affection. Each unto their own......eye of the beholder and all that.

I understand why gay pride exists, from my perspective its trying to endorse acceptance for the LGBT community. However I am not sure if its needed. In many cases its preaching to the converted that its not a big deal, so why make it a big deal by having such an event? Morgan Freeman makes a similar point about racism in a discussion about black history month.


To those people that are homophobic I would be surprised if an openly anti LGBT individual has his or her opinion swayed because they witnessed gay pride.
 
I agree. I can't empathize with how gay people are treated because I don't see it on a daily basis like you guys do. I see it regularly from a 3rd perspective but I've never been on the receiving end so I can't comment on that aspect of it. I just think it's wrong that the media are making such a song & dance out of it, that will only ignite homophobic people more.

Just look at shows like benefits street and the mentality towards those on benefits (obviously I'm not comparing the two so don't even go there Mart).

It's a shame that people like Mart have a rough time because of his sexuality and from that perspective things like Pride are fantastic, but that's organised by gay people for gay people, not some 2 bit production company trying to cash in on it.

I also certainly think that having to hide who you are in unacceptable but by taking such an aggressive stance you're only making matters worse.
 
Diddums said:
I agree. I can't empathize with how gay people are treated because I don't see it on a daily basis like you guys do. I see it regularly from a 3rd perspective but I've never been on the receiving end so I can't comment on that aspect of it. I just think it's wrong that the media are making such a song & dance out of it, that will only ignite homophobic people more.

Just look at shows like benefits street and the mentality towards those on benefits (obviously I'm not comparing the two so don't even go there Mart).

It's a shame that people like Mart have a rough time because of his sexuality and from that perspective things like Pride are fantastic, but that's organised by gay people for gay people, not some 2 bit production company trying to cash in on it.

I also certainly think that having to hide who you are in unacceptable but by taking such an aggressive stance you're only making matters worse.
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I apologise for going off on one. I mistook the tone of your post as an attack. I hope you can understand why I get so "triggered".

Rifte said:
Personally shocked to hear that members of the LGBT community still get physically assaulted etc, the last time I heard about this was in the 90s when a gay friend of mine got glassed in a pub in St Albans.
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http://metro.co.uk/2017/02/18/gay-couple-beaten-up-in-homophobic-attack-on-busy-train-6456386/

As recent as February. Not sure why you are so shocked.
 
Rifte said:
Personally I am disagreeable with anyone displaying affection in public straight or gay (anything more than hand holding, hugs or pecks has no place IMO, and should be kept behind closed doors).
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Really? How odd, I have no issue with people being openly affectionate.
 
I don't think they're getting 'too much attention' at all. The amount of bump and grind, 24 hour rolling music channels out there that seem to feature almost purely heteronormative relations... and that's just one type of television! Frankly, I find it refreshing to see others represented. I think it's only becoming an 'issue' of late because... well, it's actually there now.
 
RDM said:
Why?
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Holding hands, hugs, light pecking (the same you would do with a child to say bye) are completely fine for me.

I would never even consider anything more than this though (touching, kissing). To me, its vulgar, inappropriate (whatever the sexuality), and quite simply not needed and belongs behind closed doors.

I am aware that people differ on this opinion, I am also aware that people share the same view as mine.

Different courses for different horses and all that.
 
Personally I don't mind gay people - overall. I mean, I don't mind gay women being gay, if anything I find it a proper turn on if they're fit af lol. However! 2 gay men is a right turn off for me, like yack of the extreme kind. If I see two men about to start kissing in public I cringe and look away, I wish they wouldn't do it but you know... I'm forced to accept it - in the name of tolerance.

I tolerate gay people, specifically gay men, because of - what if I was gay or bi? how would I be happy among a intolerant society? As a intolerant person best case scenario I just have to look away when I just happen to notice 2 men start to snog.

I'm just as straight as they come, I mean some women are just so extremely sexy it makes me wonder how can any bloke be gay when they see such a very attractive woman? Sure, some men are very good looking but there is no way I could do anything sexual with him, at all, not even a peck on the cheek (humour aside).

What we have to also think about these days is that if being gay, as a species its not a negative point towards procreating our species, we're already by far overpopulated on this planet so it doesn't matter if any of us choose not to have children. Which is where I strongly disagree with religions who highly believe in the idea that we should ALL have babies no matter what. As a species we're now at a point of it doesn't matter if we have babies or not - we have enough starving African and Muslim based countries trying to get into our most modernised/western countries who are breeding like rabbits before and after they get here, and we're sending aid to other countries rather than try advance our science and technology, all in the name of fairness for all humans no matter what.
 
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Wow...

That, ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of why the word 'tolerate' is one of the most despicable words in the English language...

I would delete that post Evo... unless you want to reply to things for the next 7 hours.
 
DrToffnar said:
Wow...

That, ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of why the work 'tolerate' is one of the most despicable words in the English language...

I would delete that post Evo... unless you want to reply to things for the next 7 hours.
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But but but but but he's so progressive!

You're right about the word though, it implies the power to change the situation. Saying you tolerate gay people implies they act under your sufferance, that you are benevelont for allowing them to do as they wish.

I tolerate my missus playing iphone games with the volume up, gay people don't require my tolerance (unless they're playing iphone games with the volume up).
 
DrToffnar said:
Wow...

That, ladies and gentlemen is a classic example of why the work 'tolerate' is one of the most despicable words in the English language...

I would delete that post Evo... unless you want to reply to things for the next 7 hours.
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Yep. Basically saying you 'allow' it because you don't want to come across as a ****, but secretly wish it didn't happen at all.

I find grime music offensive, I don't find a same-sex snog offensive at all.
 
I don't particularly like PDAs from anyone. Makes no odds if they are heterosexual, homosexual or somewhere in between, I would rather not see someone eat someone else's face etc in the street.
 
krooton said:
I find grime music offensive, I don't find a same-sex snog offensive at all.
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In his defence I am not sure if his posts comes across that he is offended.

There is a whole sea of difference IMO between being offended and being adverse to seeing it.
 
It is all about time and place.

Middle of the day on a busy street, two people eating each others face is unattractive regardless. In a dingy club or bar, it seems normal. That said, I am not much into heavy handed PDA myself.
 
Rifte said:
In his defence I am not sure if his posts comes across that he is offended.

There is a whole sea of difference IMO between being offended and being adverse to seeing it.
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Oh I agree totally. Despite their baseless opinions at the end and their rather crass opening, they don't come across as being 'offended' as such. But too simply 'tolerate' something is such a moot perspective to maintain. Either summon the conviction necessary to voice your opinion, or understand that your perspective is most likely skewed by, in this case, archaic opinions.
 
krooton said:
And my multinational company of 66k employess has 15% identifying as LGBT.

There will obviously be swings for different industries, media, travel and leisure are likely to have a higher percentage than others.
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At one point in my workplace I'd guess that ~50% of the employees were homosexual or bisexual. Mostly an odd coincidence of a high turnover of staff. Nobody's bothered counting on a company-wide level though because nobody cares. It's never been treated as anything important. Which is right, because it isn't important. Perhaps the company will soon be forced to treat sexuality as being of paramount importance, given the current political campaigning to force everyone to do so, but I hope not.
 
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