Being able to do something doesn't imply it can do it at its best.
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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Being able to do something doesn't imply it can do it at its best.
They explicitly compared FE performance to FuryX performance at the launch (not the RX), plus there's a link to gaming drivers on the AMD website (albeit at the moment there is only one driver that covers everything).
They talk about the card as primarily being a development card that can be used for gaming which is fair enough, but when you through in comparisons to the FuryX and specifically talk about drivers for games then there's a clear blurring of the boundary. They shouldn't have done that and it certainly has helped create the PR disaster that has ensued.
Is the FE fundamentally different to the RX? We're being told that it's essentially the RX but with 16GB of RAM plus additional features in software to enable the pro features to command a higher price so are we in the same position yet again where the gaming drivers are shoddy for release or is it just not that great?
Although it does appear that the tiling rasteriser is not enabled in drivers yet.
Actually that shows it is
This explains it....
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
Again, i watched the stream, i know what was said and what was done. the conclution there was it was working.
Actually that shows it is
This explains it....
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
Again, i watched the stream, i know what was said and what was done.
Nope sorry, folks at Beyond 3D tested with Fiji cards. It renders out the exact same as Vega. Fiji doesn't have tilebased rasterization and PcPer are waiting for AMD to get back to them about it.
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But that doesn't have to have anything to do with performance, it could simply be price wise.
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Compared to the 780ti which released 2 weeks after the 290x and sat roughly 10% ahead of it in most game tests at the time, For today's games the 290x is miles ahead of the 780ti.
Actually that shows it is
This explains it....
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
Again, i watched the stream, i know what was said and what was done. the conclution there was it was working.
fiji has exactly the same rendering pattern, when you tile rasterise, you render everything in a tile before moving onto the next, you don't scan across each individual layer at a time.
you also went to the wrong part of the video, this is the tiled rasterisation part.
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=666
It was at the FE Launch in May. Sniper Elite 4 was played at 4K using a Vega FE. The RX was not featured or shown that day.
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Also, AMD were perfectly happy for Ryan to showcase FE gaming.
Well, in the stream they concluded it was working.
If you look at this you they demonstrate what normal rasterization looks like on AMD GPU's, its clearly one at a time from side to side, the tiled rasterization on Maxwell is up - down in tiles
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
The maxwell rasterization looks exactly the same as what you are looking at on Ryans screen, watch the video
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I can't come up with a single reason for why they'd do that?
Well, in the stream they concluded it was working.
If you look at this you they demonstrate what normal rasterization looks like on AMD GPU's, its clearly one at a time from side to side, the tiled rasterization on Maxwell is up - down in tiles
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
The maxwell rasterization looks exactly the same as what you are looking at on Ryans screen, what the video
actually they pretty much asked him not to benchmark games as its not for gaming. he even said that himself in the stream.
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Especially when it was stated they didn't gimp the drivers.
I've already mentioned that if gaming is the priority get the RX.
Humbug said you can't game on the FE and AMD never mentioned that you could game on it.
You'll have to go back a few pages to see when Humbug dropped into the thread to wind people up
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No they didn't? I watched the stream and he didn't say that at all!
To quote Raja
"Consumer RX will be much better optimized for all the top gaming titles and flavors of RX Vega will actually be faster than Frontier version!"
So not just top tier RX will be faster than FE in gaming. You'd have to be an idiot to buy FE for gaming when even AMD are telling everyone it will be slower in gaming.
Well, in the stream they concluded it was working.
If you look at this you they demonstrate what normal rasterization looks like on AMD GPU's, its clearly one at a time from side to side, the tiled rasterization on Maxwell is up - down in tiles
https://youtu.be/Nc6R1hwXhL8?t=7m8s
The maxwell rasterization looks exactly the same as what you are looking at on Ryans screen, what the video
That test was with a Terrascale card, the 6670, NOT GCN.
http://www.realworldtech.com/tile-based-rasterization-nvidia-gpus/
If PcPer confirmed it working, why did they ask AMD and are waiting for a reply?
Why does vega then also rasterize the exact same way as Fiji does?
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The Maxwell screen looks nothing like the Vega screen....
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Ah the famous "optimized" again. But fair enough, although given the consumer RX Vega's meant to have better clocks, they could be exactly the same bar clocks and the RX would be faster and cheaper.
N19h7m4r3 please just watch the video.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc6R1hwXhL8&feature=youtu.be&t=7m8s
Before the stream, the pod-cast the night-before he announced he would be buying the FE card and benchmark games live despite AMD's wish that he didn't.
Before the stream, the pod-cast the night-before he announced he would be buying the FE card and benchmark games live despite AMD's wish that he didn't.
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