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Is that 1200mhz everyone keeps mentioning just the clock that is reported in that 3dmark screenshot (genuine question)? Because if it is, i wouldn't take that as any indication as to what the clock speed was as it was probably just reporting it incorrectly.
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NCU cores.
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AMD never made Ryzen look anything less than good, from their blender results people were making all sorts of wild claims about how good its IPC was.
So far this has been nothing like Ryzen.
So far this has been nothing like Ryzen.
Man, in most of those games the overclocked Titan XP's get almost double the fps!
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2973-amd-vega-frontier-edition-reviewed-too-soon-to-call/page-4
If RX Vega isn’t faster than the FE by at least 15%, than this has got to be an even worse release than Bulldozer. Its competing with the 1070 in almost every game and even in Doom Vulkan the 1080 is 5% faster. Who was the moron at AMD who decided this card was worth releasing? An overclocked 980ti trades blows with it. Its going to be an massacre once NVIDIA unveils Volta
My best case scenario for RX Vega is 1080 performance. No chance of it being better
If RX Vega isn’t faster than the FE by at least 15%, than this has got to be an even worse release than Bulldozer. Its competing with the 1070 in almost every game and even in Doom Vulkan the 1080 is 5% faster. Who was the moron at AMD who decided this card was worth releasing? An overclocked 980ti trades blows with it. Its going to be an massacre once NVIDIA unveils Volta
My best case scenario for RX Vega is 1080 performance. No chance of it being better
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With the Frontier edition Gamer Nexus found that the memory would drop from around 945nhz to 500 mhz when they did any sort of core clocking, over and under.
I imagine that's just a bug so hopefully they can fix that with the drivers and it not needing a bio's update.
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I imagine that's just a bug so hopefully they can fix that with the drivers and it not needing a bio's update.
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That's why it look's unlikely that the RX can make up such a deficit, We can hope it get's close though.
1080 performance will be fine for most people as long as it's priced right, Price is the elephant in the room at the moment.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the RX 15% over the FE. Clocks and drivers should make that fairly doable?
Is 15% enough though given how late we are.
Is 15% enough though given how late we are.
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It'll have to be, The majority of gamers are in the 2560x1440 or lower category and a 1080 is more than capable at those resolutions.
Yes, it's late,
Yes, more would have been better,
But if it can match the 1080 consistently it'll be a nice little card.
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The problem is pricing when the 1080's been available almost a year and will be replaced almost certainly quicker than AMD's new stuff.
I should have just jumped on Fury.
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The issue we've got 1080 is over a year old anyone wanting 1080 performance would've jumped on a 1080 by now with the price decrease.
This now brings me onto 980 Ti clock that to 1500mhz and 8+ghz on the memory it's touching the heels of s stock 1080 so if Vega is 15%faster than 1080 then at stock it'll be 20-25% faster than a 2 year old card which launched at £550... that would be pretty pathetic.
Amd needs this card to be faster than a 1080 Ti otherwise what's the point in waiting?
This now brings me onto 980 Ti clock that to 1500mhz and 8+ghz on the memory it's touching the heels of s stock 1080 so if Vega is 15%faster than 1080 then at stock it'll be 20-25% faster than a 2 year old card which launched at £550... that would be pretty pathetic.
Amd needs this card to be faster than a 1080 Ti otherwise what's the point in waiting?
With decent custom AIB 1080's at under £500, AMD are going to have to seriously price Vega low if it can only output 1080 performance but with hugely increased power draw/temps. The question is, can they, what with it being a big die and having HBM etc?
Then , you have to consider that the shelf life of Vega is going to be very short. Nvidia could drop Volta GV104 chips in Q1 2018 making Vega obsolete in ~6 months!
It is too little too late i reckon.
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In the Gamer Nexus video the gaming relevant tests start at 16 min 58 sec.
The memory downclocking meant the card was no good for overclocking and they only included one example and that's the first test (Firestrike) at the time stamp above.
This may be why other's results are so poor, I don't recall Pcper mentioning it during the livestream though, that said I was tired at the time so I could have missed it. You'd of thought that they'd of noticed it if it is an issue we'll all experience with the card. Personally I hope it is an issue across all the FE cards as it will give us a reason for the dire results and the potential for RX to be a lot better than the FE makes it look.
The memory downclocking meant the card was no good for overclocking and they only included one example and that's the first test (Firestrike) at the time stamp above.
This may be why other's results are so poor, I don't recall Pcper mentioning it during the livestream though, that said I was tired at the time so I could have missed it. You'd of thought that they'd of noticed it if it is an issue we'll all experience with the card. Personally I hope it is an issue across all the FE cards as it will give us a reason for the dire results and the potential for RX to be a lot better than the FE makes it look.
Are you ignoring the multiple freesync monitor users like myself for whom an Nvidia card is simply out of the equation?
I don't care that it's a year or so after whatever Nvidia cards have released. That just means my upgrade cycle for gpus is different to someone with an Nvidia card.
If Vega performs at 1080 levels for a decent price then people like myself with freesync screens will more than likely buy it. I will not buy a Nvidia card until they support freesync
He has a good point but nobody expected a 52% increase in single threaded performance from bulldozer to Ryzen.
Either way RX Vega will be interesting either a total disappointment or a magnificent card.
I do wonder, aren't AMD a little to calm with FE reviews. Seriously no significant attempt at damage control merely brushing it aside. There is an interesting storm coming.
Either way RX Vega will be interesting either a total disappointment or a magnificent card.
I do wonder, aren't AMD a little to calm with FE reviews. Seriously no significant attempt at damage control merely brushing it aside. There is an interesting storm coming.
The codes are GCN cores, the shader engines are what AMd refer to as NCU
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