Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[five8five]

20% is a lot more than currently predicted based on the FE results, PcPer insist no more than 10%, 4 weeks to find out how much PcPer predictions are worth.

Gamersnexus didn't predict a minimum gain but they did put a cap on the maximum -

Keep expectations checked for RX Vega, as it will be at least in the orbit of these results, but there's not yet reason to try and pretend we can guess at its performance, either. There will likely be improvement -- but don't expect 30-40%. Keep it realistic.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2973-amd-vega-frontier-edition-reviewed-too-soon-to-call/page-5

 

[nashathedog]

If amd were to just focus on performance instead of hbm and hbc they might be a lot further ahead than they are. One of the big hooplas about hbm was smaller card sizes, seems like that's already been kicked in the head, and the only thing that hbm is currently doing for amd is reducing power requirements slightly, otherwise the 375 watt tdp of vega fe might be over 400 watts. Saying that though i don't think vega has really exceeded 280ish in some of the reviews?

It was going beyond 300 according to the voltage reader used in the Jerico Jerico (potato-camera man) review.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Found these updated numbers on reddit. Massive difference to the one you've posted. Not sure what the time frame is between your numbers and the one in the link

https://compubench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=compu15d&os=Windows&api=cl&cpu-arch=x86&hwtype=dGPU&hwname=AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition&did=50437649&D=AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition

Something is odd here. Click your link right, then click compare and suddenly watch the Frontier Edition numbers return to the ones I posted. Especially when compared to a Fury X.

That's really odd.

 

[Erik13]

This thread is getting really silly !!!

We have not seen a gaming card yet

We therefore have not seen drivers for it yet

We really do need to wait for a proper review of the actual gaming card, anything else is irrelevant.

Testing a professional card for gaming is a bit like driving a Rolls Royce off road, totally pointless.

Agree 100 percent. Speculations are pointless at this moment just wait few more weeks

 

[pete910]

Something is odd here. Click your link right, then click compare and suddenly watch the Frontier Edition numbers return to the ones I posted. Especially when compared to a Fury X.

That's really odd.

I see what you mean

Face detection for example goes from 190.318 mPixels/s to 106.488 mPixels/s


So which ones are the correct figures?

 

[humbug]

That is assuming that 10% they said and then another 10% for clockspeeds,since I assume the RX Vega will have a better cooler and having 8GB of HBM2 should mean more of the power and TDP budgets can be used by the core. So at a minimum I expect the RX Vega to be a tad ahead of GTX1080 FE. OFC,if the drivers they shipped for the Vega FE are really that borked for gaming,it might be more,but rather hype it up too much,I would rather be pleasantly surprised in a positive way.

It wouldn't be enough.

 

[Zeebedy]

Here's the problem we're going to have, It wouldn't surprise me if AMD are holding something back so that on release we see a moderate performance hike which they hope will temporarily blind us to the overall performance and how it sit's with the price they're asking,
I can't see it being much cheaper than £500 if at all. The Fury pro was £430, the Fury X was from £500 up and I think the Nano was more than the Fury X to start with.
Considering the apparent work that's gone into the chip and the memory and what AMD have got riding on it, I think the asking price will be too much. We'll see at the end of the month.

Really? £500+ surely that would kill RX VEGA as surely that the price is where AMD are going to try and get NVIDIA by the goolies..

 

[bru]

Ok so it has to be asked.

Just why did AMD release this card first?

I really cannot fathom an upside to all the negative press it is getting.

 

[TNA]

Yea. At £500+ it better beat the 1080 at every game, be close to the 1080Ti in the rest and match or beat it at AMD optimised games like Doom. If not then it will not sell well at all. At this point 1080 performance needs to be no more than £400 if AMD want to be distributive and sell well imo.

 

[Zeebedy]

Yea. At £500+ it better beat the 1080 at every game, be close to the 1080Ti in the rest and match or beat it at AMD optimised games like Doom. If not then it will not sell well at all. At this point 1080 performance needs to be no more than £400 if AMD want to be distributive and sell well imo.

This.

 

[DragonQ]

Ok so it has to be asked.

Just why did AMD release this card first?

I really cannot fathom an upside to all the negative press it is getting.

Already mentioned many times. They had to stick to H1 2017 release date for investor/shareholder pleasing purposes and this was the best option because, presumably, gaming cards and/or drivers aren't ready.

 

[Nablaoperator]

Yea. At £500+ it better beat the 1080 at every game, be close to the 1080Ti in the rest and match or beat it at AMD optimised games like Doom. If not then it will not sell well at all. At this point 1080 performance needs to be no more than £400 if AMD want to be distributive and sell well imo.

It better be..a 2x cf vega setup is gonna come loaded with 1.2kW PSU + 2kVA UPS
just waiting for the transistor count... if its less than 15.. will be going green.. have always been green btw, just got caught up in this vega hype
and nvidia pushing midrange graphic cards as enthusiast parts isnt helping either

 

[Rroff]

Already mentioned many times. They had to stick to H1 2017 release date for investor/shareholder pleasing purposes and this was the best option because, presumably, gaming cards and/or drivers aren't ready.

If they were going to do that though they really needed some controlled coverage of gaming Vega at the very least.

 

[humbug]

Ok so it has to be asked.

Just why did AMD release this card first?

I really cannot fathom an upside to all the negative press it is getting.

The press are treating it as a gamers card instead of what it is and marketed as, a workstation card, and thats AMD's fault?

This ^^^^ is why AMD can never do anything right.

 

[jonjay]

Yea. At £500+ it better beat the 1080 at every game, be close to the 1080Ti in the rest and match or beat it at AMD optimised games like Doom. If not then it will not sell well at all. At this point 1080 performance needs to be no more than £400 if AMD want to be distributive and sell well imo.

Agreed mate.

 

[melmac]

lutching at straws Let's not forget we've had all this play out with the Fiji and the 480 releases. Right up until the point of reviews, AMD fans kept saying "the leaks are all wrong, these cards will be amazing!" The 480 was going to batter a 980ti, remember? Oh wait, it turned out to trade blows with a 970

There was only a couple of people who thought the 480 was going to equal 980ti performance and Gibbo put a stop to that thinking long before release date.

 

[zophiel]

Need to rename the thread to VEGA FE edition, so much prattle about nothing and so much hate over something no one can prove one way or another.

 

[melmac]

The press are treating it as a gamers card instead of what it is and marketed as, a workstation card, and thats AMD's fault?

This ^^^^ is why AMD can never do anything right.

There is a lot of confusion though about this card, it's not the greatest workstation card either. And while it's not a gamers cards, they do say you can use it for gaming. It's AMD's fault for the way they are releasing this card. They surely should have known that enthusiasts would be trying games on it to try and forecast RX Vega performance.

 

[Gerard]

The press are treating it as a gamers card instead of what it is and marketed as, a workstation card, and thats AMD's fault?

This ^^^^ is why AMD can never do anything right.

I seen on another forum someone mention that amd had to launch something as they committed to Vega for 1st half of the year, so FE came about after they knew they would miss the ship date for the rx line. Possible i suppose but plenty of waffle going on about vega at present.

 

[stulid]

Unless its all a big conspiracy and all the FE edition reviews are deliberately crap.