Who is still stuck with ADSL??

haroon

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Thought I'd start a thread on this as the time of the year has come to renew the broadband again and still no sight of fibre being available at this address (don't live in the outback and only 300-400 metres from fibre enabled exchange)

How many are in the same predicament? I thought by the end of 2017 24mbps was set the become the nationwide standard?

EDIT: we get 8mb max on our ADSL line
 
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Not a standard, just a target.

By the end of 2017 'superfast broadband' (download in excess of 24 Mbps) was supposed to be available to 95% of premises.

Even if they hit the target that's still going to leave a lot of people out of the loop.
 
Due to move in to a new build in Liverpool with expected internet speeds of anything between 1 and 7mbps. All the houses in the surrounding area have FTTC and virgin, very depressing!
 
Not stuck with it, but haven't opted to upgrade to fibre. 6Mb down / 0.8Mb up is enough for me, for now. Can watch two tv streams on that (720p).

Kids are getting older, though (7 and 4), so expect I'll need to switch to Fibre next year.
 
Yeah, currently sharing this connection with upwards of 20 people is painful.

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Never gonna get better either as the last 2KM of line is for my house and a single neighbour. I also had to increase the SNR margin by 3db to ensure it wasn't constantly dropping out.

Fortunately I am getting a 2nd broadband connection installed on Tuesday which'll be mine and mine only.
 
Sider said:
Due to move in to a new build in Liverpool with expected internet speeds of anything between 1 and 7mbps. All the houses in the surrounding area have FTTC and virgin, very depressing!
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It is depressing. You'd have thought that they'd have been able to do something with the planning system to avoid these issues by now.

Personally I wouldn't touch anything that hasn't got decent broadband. I bought my current house just over 15 years ago and even back then it was an important factor.
 
I'm on 17mb down, 1mb ish up.

A lot of the village has fibre, including Virgin Media, but it hasn't reached up our street yet. It isn't looking good either, a 4G solution has been installed in our area to cover those not currently getting "superfast" speeds. From the adverts I've read it should be at least 24mbps down, which is obviously better, but I think this will just delay any install of "proper" fast broadband. I just wish they'd pulled their finger out and stuck a bit of glass in the ground :(
 
Jokester said:
I can get fibre but 18mbps ADSL is quick enough for me.
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Sorry should have added to my original post, can 'only' get 8mb on our ADSL line, which whilst I admit is good enough for browsing and email checking using catch up services and using the laptop can be a struggle at times and watching youtube almost always causes interference with whatever someone else is doing on the tv.

This along with the fact whenever I need to download large patches/games and movies I just wish we had fibre. I'll often get a lower bit rate download for the sake of watching something faster.

We was also thinking of getting UHD sky Q and I would not want to guess how long it would take to wait before the dam video loads before watching,4k streaming is obviously off the table.

Perhaps if we could tap into the full ADSL capability as you can maybe I wouldn't feel the urge for fibre so much but with no chance of our ADSL speeds getting any better <8mb is grating at times :(
 
bremen1874 said:
Not a standard, just a target.

By the end of 2017 'superfast broadband' (download in excess of 24 Mbps) was supposed to be available to 95% of premises.

Even if they hit the target that's still going to leave a lot of people out of the loop.
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Well I'm going to have to sign up to another 12 months of 8mb *sigh* I REALLY hope by this time next year our street will get sorted out!

I get this feeling any places not hooked up by years end may never see fibre??
 
Zefan said:
I'm on 17mb down, 1mb ish up.

A lot of the village has fibre, including Virgin Media, but it hasn't reached up our street yet. It isn't looking good either, a 4G solution has been installed in our area to cover those not currently getting "superfast" speeds. From the adverts I've read it should be at least 24mbps down, which is obviously better, but I think this will just delay any install of "proper" fast broadband. I just wish they'd pulled their finger out and stuck a bit of glass in the ground :(
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Funnily enough years ago we use to use T-mobiles unlimited dongles and the HSPA+ or whatever it was use to give us better speeds then we get now through our copper ADSL.

Unfortunately no one offers unlimited data since 4g has been introduced, at least nothing you can use for anything other than a phone, would never of even bothered with a landline if it still existed
 
haroon said:
Sorry should have added to my original post, can 'only' get 8mb on our ADSL line, which whilst I admit is good enough for browsing and email checking using catch up services and using the laptop can be a struggle at times and watching youtube almost always causes interference with whatever someone else is doing on the tv.

This along with the fact whenever I need to download large patches/games and movies I just wish we had fibre. I'll often get a lower bit rate download for the sake of watching something faster.

We was also thinking of getting UHD sky Q and I would not want to guess how long it would take to wait before the dam video loads before watching,4k streaming is obviously off the table.

Perhaps if we could tap into the full ADSL capability as you can maybe I wouldn't feel the urge for fibre so much but with no chance of our ADSL speeds getting any better <8mb is grating at times :(
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Sky Q UHD Live broadcasts come via the dish in the traditional Sky way. Only the On demand UHD content comes via your broadband. If you're interested in the F1, cricket or Premier League football then by all means crack on and get it ordered.
 
Sider said:
Due to move in to a new build in Liverpool with expected internet speeds of anything between 1 and 7mbps. All the houses in the surrounding area have FTTC and virgin, very depressing!
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Is this a brand new building? If so, I'd check other addresses on your street to get a reliable indication of your broadband choices.
 
bremen1874 said:
It is depressing. You'd have thought that they'd have been able to do something with the planning system to avoid these issues by now.

Personally I wouldn't touch anything that hasn't got decent broadband. I bought my current house just over 15 years ago and even back then it was an important factor.
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We were limited to new builds due to the help to buy scheme and therefore limited to the places we could live. We really loved the house so it was about compromise. As long as I can game ok it wont bother me too much but its shocking how having the appropriate telecoms infrastructure is not a mandatory requirement for new builds these days.

TJM said:
Is this a brand new building? If so, I'd check other addresses on your street to get a reliable indication of your broadband choices.
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Brand new building and everywhere I check I get more or less this:

http://imgur.com/a/2owDc

Although without a land line number I wont get an accurate results. I have spoken to other people on the new site and they say the internet speed is pretty dire :( My only hope is that the first phase of the build has virgin and FTTC now but those houses were built about 5-6 years ago.
 
Sider said:
Brand new building and everywhere I check I get more or less this:

http://imgur.com/a/2owDc

Although without a land line number I wont get an accurate results. I have spoken to other people on the new site and they say the internet speed is pretty dire :( My only hope is that the first phase of the build has virgin and FTTC now but those houses were built about 5-6 years ago.
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You might be connected to the same cabinet but Openreach's database hasn't yet twigged that FTTC is available to you (it took a while with my new build).

Use https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ to identify your cabinet (top right of the results page after doing an address check) and then use your postcode to look up the cabinet over here: https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm This will well you whether the cabinet has FTTC.
 
If it was a single new build then you're probably on a cabinet that has FTTC, but without a phone line then you don't have a gold address so no checker is going to show FTTC availability.

If it was a group of new builds then you might have just had a new cable run from the exchange and will have ADSL only. The developers could have spoken to Openreach to make it an FTTP deployment but lol if you expect house builders to do anything that costs a bit of money they don't have to spend by law.
 
haroon said:
Thought I'd start a thread on this as the time of the year has come to renew the broadband again and still no sight of fibre being available at this address (don't live in the outback and only 300-400 metres from fibre enabled exchange)

How many are in the same predicament? I thought by the end of 2017 24mbps was set the become the nationwide standard?

EDIT: we get 8mb max on our ADSL line
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What are your line stats? At only a few hundred metres you should definitely get higher speeds.
 
95% of people would be fine with 4mb broadband for home use.. If streaming TV could cache data when you pause or suggest you pause for x mins to allow it to cache it would probably be ok for 99% of people.. (I'm assuming 4mb is borderline with streaming HD content)

Having said that I have 150mb fibre from virgin
 
Caged said:
If it was a single new build then you're probably on a cabinet that has FTTC, but without a phone line then you don't have a gold address so no checker is going to show FTTC availability.

If it was a group of new builds then you might have just had a new cable run from the exchange and will have ADSL only. The developers could have spoken to Openreach to make it an FTTP deployment but lol if you expect house builders to do anything that costs a bit of money they don't have to spend by law.
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I know they cut corners wherever possible, I am well aware of this :)

TJM said:
You might be connected to the same cabinet but Openreach's database hasn't yet twigged that FTTC is available to you (it took a while with my new build).

Use https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ to identify your cabinet (top right of the results page after doing an address check) and then use your postcode to look up the cabinet over here: https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm This will well you whether the cabinet has FTTC.
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The first link gives me Stoneycroft exchange cabinet 54 (ADSL only) but the second link says cabinet p38 (FTTC). I don''t think I am going to really know until I get in there and have an actual line installed. Checking the BT openreach website I get this:

http://imgur.com/a/UwOt6

So it looks like something is in the pipeline at least. They say 12 months but I suspect in BT time thats about 2 years :)
 
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