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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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LoadsaMoney said:
According to this, it is only the cut-down XL thats going to be custom cooled, XTX and XT are reference, so AIO and ****** blower.

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http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/ra...r_and_liquid_cooled_xl_xt_and_xtx_models.html

What a shame, a Sapphire Tri-X cooler (like on the Fury Pro), would be far better on an XT than that absolute gash blower cooler thats used on the FE, can see everyone just going for the AIO, so lets just hope it doesn't eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee........ :p
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With this range the issue will probably be the lack of stock if not that overpricing. :rolleyes:
 
^^ :D

If stock shortage is true then price will more than likely be high. Oh well, I think I will just try and forget above Vega and get excited about Volta at this point.
 
TNA said:
^^ :D

If stock shortage is true then price will more than likely be high. Oh well, I think I will just try and forget above Vega and get excited about Volta at this point.
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I'd love to do that. However, I have a freesync monitor that I bought over a year ago and is now £150 more expensive than when I bought it. Plus the £100 gsync tax and it's rather off putting.
 
I'm waiting to see how RX Vega performs and if it's crap hopefully the 1080Ti prices will come down anyway and I'll pick up one of those instead.
 
benjii said:
I'd love to do that. However, I have a freesync monitor that I bought over a year ago and is now £150 more expensive than when I bought it. Plus the £100 gsync tax and it's rather off putting.
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But when you think about it, if AMD are not going to be able to be competitive with Vega, then one might as well pay the g-sync tax, as monitors usually are not changed often.

I also have a Freesync monitor, but I was happy without adaptive sync anyway so no big deal for me to use an Nvidia GPU on my freesync monitor. I won't be changing my monitor any time soon until I can get a 4K 120hz HDR OLED one which won't be for a few years. If AMD does not sort things out with Navi, I will go G-Sync at that point.

Recently had 4K G-Sync monitor anyway, sent it back as I found it underwhelming for the price. Plus it had dead pixels.

Might try and upgrade my current 4K LG monitor by taking it apart and removing the AG coating in the near future. That will be a big upgrade for me for free. Might end up with a new monitor if I **** it up though :p
 
TNA said:
If AMD does not sort things out with Navi, I will go G-Sync at that point.
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The way this vega launch is being managed ... a successful navi launch looks like an impossibility
how long do they expect people to wait without cursing?

if amd is unable to manage this.. they should just sell-off rtg to some iron handed private equity.. i have few ideas :)

think i should just chillax now and wait for feedback from folks at hungary.. they wont be crashing their schedule for one impatient guy anyways
 
Does increasingly seem like (and add a little validation to the rumours) they are trying to force an RTG sell off :s I don't think this is any indication really of what Navi would shape up like though their approach isn't inspiring - it is going to need something special to justify their use of HBM2 on these cards rather than as it seems the massive hold back and largely pointlessness of using it.
 
Rroff said:
Does increasingly seem like (and add a little validation to the rumours) they are trying to force an RTG sell off :s I don't think this is any indication really of what Navi would shape up like though their approach isn't inspiring - it is going to need something special to justify their use of HBM2 on these cards rather than as it seems the massive hold back and largely pointlessness of using it.
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I really don't think AMD will do so. It's there only advantage over Intel and the Cpu side gives them an advantage over Nvidia. I think Apu's will eventually become pretty potent. Throwing away the graphics division would ruin them in that segment not to mention the games console market. Makes no sense what so ever to get rid of the graphics division. If it was not for the graphics division they would be dead by now. Sure maybe if they never bought the Ati in the first place they might have had better cpu's in the first place but i think now all they need to do is create good products and they can have the best of both worlds. Easier said than done but going forward being good at both has it's advantages.
 
lots of talking down again guys.

patience is a virtue.

do you really think Sapphire will miss and opportunity to sell a Vega RX Tri-x Toxic with a nice 3 fan cooler to sell for christmas ? i doubt it !
 
TheRealDeal said:
I really don't think AMD will do so. It's there only advantage over Intel and the Cpu side gives them an advantage over Nvidia. I think Apu's will eventually become pretty potent. Throwing away the graphics division would ruin them in that segment not to mention the games console market. Makes no sense what so ever to get rid of the graphics division. If it was not for the graphics division they would be dead by now. Sure maybe if they never bought the Ati in the first place they might have had better cpu's in the first place but i think now all they need to do is create good products and they can have the best of both worlds. Easier said than done but going forward being good at both has it's advantages.
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I'm meaning more the rumours there are some within AMD who want to see RTG sold off rather than something AMD themselves want.
 
Rroff said:
I'm meaning more the rumours there are some within AMD who want to see RTG sold off rather than something AMD themselves want.
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I don't know your thought's but i would sack them straight away as to me they have no brains :D:D:D. I really can't see how that would benefit AMD apart from an auto cash boost. To me they just need to keep on the path they are on. It's slowly improving. Sure the Vega FE card is making me doubt what the gaming card can achieve but with IFF and Navi i think they are on the right path for more profit and performance.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I don't know your thought's but i would sack them straight away as to me they have no brains :D:D:D. I really can't see how that would benefit AMD apart from an auto cash boost. To me they just need to keep on the path they are on. It's slowly improving. Sure the Vega FE card is making me doubt what the gaming card can achieve but with IFF and Navi i think they are on the right path for more profit and performance.
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let me try to answer this logically.
there are 2 kinds of stakeholders the management & shareholders
for the management rtg is like a defensive shield.. its something that will keep them afloat when the intel juggernaut is moving at the speed of light
for shareholders.. rtg is a value store
under less than ideal conditions... the shareholders will approach the board with a proposal to evaluate a possible sell-off of rtg..they might even knock at the door with an offer.. so what happens then is that the board will independently evaluate the offer
basically the exercise deals with comparing the value of a) rtg as a part of amd vs b) the value of rtg as a standalone unit or maybe part of another well funded organization (the offer)

if "b" is found to be greater than "a" - it would immediately reflect in the share price of amd which will go up few notches, these things get leaked much faster than vega launch dates (which can also be interpreted as an informal approval from shareholders)

so now the question is: whether whats happening now can be termed less than ideal conditions for rtg?

also every large organization has a strategy and development team who are actually paid to look at all scenarios even what some people might consider as brainless...

Edit: sorry i trolled.. will strictly limit my discussions to vega henceforth :D
 
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TheRealDeal said:
I don't know your thought's but i would sack them straight away as to me they have no brains :D:D:D. I really can't see how that would benefit AMD apart from an auto cash boost. To me they just need to keep on the path they are on. It's slowly improving. Sure the Vega FE card is making me doubt what the gaming card can achieve but with IFF and Navi i think they are on the right path for more profit and performance.
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The rumours have been about individuals and nothing provable - it wouldn't be to AMD's gain and is probably all largely nonsense anyway but stuff like this does tend to make one wonder.
 
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