• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
Status
Not open for further replies.
This is the first time in my history of owning GPUs that my PSU is falling short for what is essenatially 1080 performance. NVIDIA will sadly get my money again with Volta
 
Rtg is important for apus so i doubt they will sell it completely. Maybe certain parts of it, especially the ones that are associated with dgpu market
 
Erik13 said:
Rtg is important for apus so i doubt they will sell it completely. Maybe certain parts of it, especially the ones that are associated with dgpu market
Click to expand...

I doubt they will sell any of it - just stuff like this lends credence to those who claim some within AMD want to engineer a forced sell off.
 
benjii said:
I'm really curious to see what the price difference is between the water and air cooled full fat die. The difference in the frontier edition is £700! They either massively inflated the price as it was a prosumer card or the watercooled Vega is going miss the reasonable pricing mark by miles.
Click to expand...

The price of the water cooled RX needs to be a lot less than the difference between the FE air and FE water.
 
Nablaoperator said:
let me try to answer this logically.
there are 2 kinds of stakeholders the management & shareholders
for the management rtg is like a defensive shield.. its something that will keep them afloat when the intel juggernaut is moving at the speed of light
for shareholders.. rtg is a value store
under less than ideal conditions... the shareholders will approach the board with a proposal to evaluate a possible sell-off of rtg..they might even knock at the door with an offer.. so what happens then is that the board will independently evaluate the offer
basically the exercise deals with comparing the value of a) rtg as a part of amd vs b) the value of rtg as a standalone unit or maybe part of another well funded organization (the offer)

if "b" is found to be greater than "a" - it would immediately reflect in the share price of amd which will go up few notches, these things get leaked much faster than vega launch dates (which can also be interpreted as an informal approval from shareholders)

so now the question is: whether whats happening now can be termed less than ideal conditions for rtg?

also every large organization has a strategy and development team who are actually paid to look at all scenarios even what some people might consider as brainless...

Edit: sorry i trolled.. will strictly limit my discussions to vega henceforth :D
Click to expand...

:D:D:D
 
Rroff said:
Problem is the profitability for AMD - sure someone can say the money for that will come from elsewhere in the business - but declining profitably will just see less and less investment from other parts of the business. It won't be long until 1080 ballpark performance seems distinctly last generation mid-range as well.

nVidia only needs to release a (proper) refresh at this point to squeeze them into having to price Vega down another tier as well and they really can't afford that. Unless RX Vega has waay better performance than is being thought at this point its going to be one of the shortest life cycle products in GPU history.
Click to expand...

I agree, but at the moment AMD would have to be satisfied with making any profit at all from it and getting any publicity at all from it. If Vega works as a "we're still in the market...just about" product and makes 1p profit, it's still an improvement in AMD's position.
 
Thats only coming out for those few Freesync owners, who say they can't get Nvidia for having that.

hey are in the Pro and Machine Learning market (FE and Instinct Vega cards), as thats where the money is for them, its not in the gaming, as they are going to make bugger all on the gaming.
 
Last edited:
LoadsaMoney said:
Thats only coming out for those few Freesync owners, who say they can't get Nvidia for having that.

They are in the Pro and Machine Learning market (FE and Instinct Vega cards), as thats where the money is for them, its not in the gaming, as tery are going to make bugger all on the gaming.
Click to expand...

If that's where the money is alone, they wouldn't put a team of people working on drivers for months just to sell to the "few Freesync owners".
 
I just can not see, all those that have been on that peformance, and higher, for over a year now, sidegrading or downgrading to a card, that needs much more power to run.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
I just can not see, all those that have been on that peformance, and higher, for over a year now, sidegrading or downgrading to a card, that even sucks way more power.
Click to expand...
I downgraded twice in the last 3 months. Went from a 1080 to a Nano, then finally ended up with a 7970, enjoying every game I wanted to play and making a very nice three figure profit in the process :p

Currently I am leaning towards waiting for Volta. At least I know I will end up getting ~1080Ti performance for much cheaper and have it running cooler and quieter. Also hopefully on GDDR6 :D

But not counting AMD out just yet, will hang in there for a few more weeks before I give up and lose faith in them.
 
Yeah, but if your going to side/downgrade from a 1080/Ti, you're going to have to get a new PSU as well, at a much higher wattage :p

Just about everyone whos going to go for a Vega, is going to have to factor in the cost of a new PSU as well. :D

They could do a Vega and PSU bundle :p
 
Last edited:
LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah, but if your going to side/downgrade from a 1080/Ti, you're going to have to get a new PSU as well, at a much higher wattage :p

Just about everyone whos going to go for a Vega, is going to have to factor in the cost of a new PSU as well. :D

They could do a Vega and PSU bundle :p
Click to expand...
Not me mate. I could easily run Vega in crossfire with my PSU. Not that I would, I will leave crossfire alone for you to enjoy ;)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom