McLaren 570S
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I'm not certain the problems and/or reliability of the car would put off Housey (these things happen), it's how the dealership and brand handle the problem and come to a resolution that matters most. I'd imagine you'd get a different level of customer service from Lamborghini than you do from Audi regardless of the brand connection.
I like Lambo's, I've never loved them. It is the dealers that leave a bad taste, not the car. Today I took the car out of the garage for quick drive before I washed it. One mile down the road on comes the tyre pressure light. I reset as always with a first register and another mile on it comes again. So back home for a pressure check and sure enough low pressure 10 psi down on offside rear. Down to my local Kwik Fit which is open to find a nail at the side of the tyre. I get no luck sometimes but it was fixed and I am back on the road, though I had to get my wife to pop my own trolly jack down as none of theirs would go under the car, but the 2 lads there did a proper job. They put it up on the ramp first to check and validate the trolly jacking points, used my covered nut remover so not to damage the wheel etc but it's annoying.
All cars have issues, if those issues are diagnosed in 2 hours and fixed within a week all good, you put up with it. But 8 weeks in 12 months is too much time and leaves a sour taste. Sadly from what I am hearing McLaren are much the same, so I don't think simply moving brand will solve that issue. These cars are complex, I drive them hard, not without care or mercy, just hard and I expect niggles and some remediation work. Sometimes however you get bad luck and I have bad luck.
All cars have issues, if those issues are diagnosed in 2 hours and fixed within a week all good, you put up with it. But 8 weeks in 12 months is too much time and leaves a sour taste. Sadly from what I am hearing McLaren are much the same, so I don't think simply moving brand will solve that issue. These cars are complex, I drive them hard, not without care or mercy, just hard and I expect niggles and some remediation work. Sometimes however you get bad luck and I have bad luck.
There were loads of bike'ists out on Saturday morning when I arrived. Must have been 30 of them, all in tour de Dudley outfits congregating for a ride.
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I think you'd be very happy with the 570. I really like the car, and having spent a lot of time in one, would definitely own one. I was pleasantly surprised at how well it rode given it doesn't have the clever suspension from its bigger brothers. The engine is superb, and compared to the 12C/650, requires a little more work to get the performance, making it feel a little more like an NA car IMO. It's a sensational piece of kit, but I do prefer the GT to the S in terms of looks, personally.
On another point, have you had chance to drive your friend's 720 yet? It'll redefine your definition of fast! I was blown away, so much so I'm probably going to get one. To me it felt as quick as the P1 I drove last year, or certainly close enough at "reasonable" speeds, that I'd have a hard time comparing them.
I agree with you completely about in the flesh vs photographs.
On another point, have you had chance to drive your friend's 720 yet? It'll redefine your definition of fast! I was blown away, so much so I'm probably going to get one. To me it felt as quick as the P1 I drove last year, or certainly close enough at "reasonable" speeds, that I'd have a hard time comparing them.
I agree with you completely about in the flesh vs photographs.
Thanks for the write up Housey, pretty comprehensive. I too briefly considered a 570S or even a 540C. The 540C is potentially worth looking at - it basically has slightly less power and steel brakes versus ceramics, it also has a bit less carbon as standard but is ~£15k cheaper. Then again with these cars it's not always the absolute cost of the car but what it will lose. The £15k you'd probably see back in residuals at the end. I went for what is probably a slightly riskier option of an older 650S Spider for a similar price to a new 570S - with the McLaren warranty I was pretty confident all will be well, but I guess we will see! Touch wood, everything is fine so far.
What you are paying for with the McLaren is the chassis and suspension, it really is superb. I'll do some kind of a write up on my car when I get a chance, but as a "usable" supercar you really don't get much better than these cars. The reaction from other road users has also been overwhelmingly positive, something I was dreading a bit when I was initially considering a 458 at one point in time.
What you are paying for with the McLaren is the chassis and suspension, it really is superb. I'll do some kind of a write up on my car when I get a chance, but as a "usable" supercar you really don't get much better than these cars. The reaction from other road users has also been overwhelmingly positive, something I was dreading a bit when I was initially considering a 458 at one point in time.
Just down the road from me. Sometimes I think they're the only McLaren dealer in the country as I've seen so many people mention them. EVO's long-term tester came from there too I believe. It's turning into motor city around here now with Ferrari/Maserati and a large new Porsche dealer up the road, along with the usual BMW/Audi/VW/Volvo/Mazda/Honda/Toyota suspects.
Evora is a great car, but 570S is a different league.
You can get some very nice versions of the Evora. Comes down to what you are looking for in a car I suppose.
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I like the 570 far more than the 650 or 720. Because the 570 does not have embedded spoiler, so you can add your own.
The GTR has 2 "leg" branched out from the rear to support 1 big spoiler.
I have this idea to have the "leg" portion of the GTR spoiler, instead of 2 legs, a total of 4 legs, 2 on each side, and each pair supports 1 short spoiler. In other words, 2 spoilers, parallel to each other, each spoiler with 2 legs comes up from the rear (NOT the top of the back of the car) where the rear light is located. Spoiler not connected at the centre.
Do you think there is a way to drill in the extra space? Obviously the GTR has the space for 2 legs. I am just wondering if there is space to drill in 2 more legs.
The GTR has 2 "leg" branched out from the rear to support 1 big spoiler.
I have this idea to have the "leg" portion of the GTR spoiler, instead of 2 legs, a total of 4 legs, 2 on each side, and each pair supports 1 short spoiler. In other words, 2 spoilers, parallel to each other, each spoiler with 2 legs comes up from the rear (NOT the top of the back of the car) where the rear light is located. Spoiler not connected at the centre.
Do you think there is a way to drill in the extra space? Obviously the GTR has the space for 2 legs. I am just wondering if there is space to drill in 2 more legs.
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but how do they justify this cost? a bottle of synthetic motor oil is still $50. so are they jacking up the oil filter?
No. It's because undoubtedly a lot of items need to be seen to and or removed then replaced to complete an oil change on a super car. It's labour and specialised mechanics you are paying for, not parts. These sorts of cars are designed with performance and style in mind, not ease of servicing. It's not like a Ford Fiesta which you can jack and access the oil sump and filter immediately.
Your posts are very odd :/
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£1,000 hourly rate (for the minimum wage apprentices to change it lol.
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No. It's because undoubtedly a lot of items need to be seen to and or removed then replaced to complete an oil change on a super car. It's labour and specialised mechanics you are paying for, not parts. These sorts of cars are designed with performance and style in mind, not ease of servicing. It's not like a Ford Fiesta which you can jack and access the oil sump and filter immediately.
Your posts are very odd :/
but why would an average John doe can change their own oil filter on their Honda or toyota then? I mean, since people pays much more $ on these super car, shouldn't accessing an oil filter be even easier?
Not really, they charge it because idiots pay it without questioning and want that stamp in the book.
In Ferraris of yesteryear they made some, very, questionable servicing options (drop the entire engine to change timing belt anyone?) but every modern supercar is easily self-serviceable for oil and filters.