Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040

andythelandy said:
I also heard this morning that the Lib Dems want all diesel sales banned by 2025, this just shows how uneducated they are, do they think petrol emissions are just harmless?! If they need to ban diesels by 2025 then they need to ban petrols too the Euro 6 emissions from a diesel is virtually identical to a Euro 6 petrol anyway!.
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Petrol emissions are no where near as bad though, they don't have the cancer causing elements that diesels kick out. Nor anything like the level of NOX, which is 10x worse than co2.
 
Nasher said:
Petrol emissions are no where near as bad though, they don't have the cancer causing elements that diesels kick out. Nor anything like the level of NOX, which is 10x worse than co2.
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But they're not this is what I'm getting at, a Euro 6 diesel is barely any different to a Euro 6 petrol. Yes old diesels are bad and I agree they should be phased out.
 
Glaucus said:
Where does that say solar on cars also just the other day in the governer meeting he told them how it is not viable to put solar on car.
It was something along the lines of if you had a device that came out of the boot, unfolded and covered the entire car in solar and it was in a sunny country and in full sun you might get 20-30milea of range a day.
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Hmm... the article I read interpreted solar roofs as meant solar roofs for cars. Perhaps not though.
 
The thing what gets me is that a lot of the reasons people still have to travel constantly is a result of local and national policies. They scrapped tons of local schools that were all in walking distance, then make single bigger schools with a wide catchment area that means loads of morning traffic.

They are still obsessed with making everyone travel to city centres to work as well. They need to look at the reasons for people having to travel rather than just the vehicles used.
 
SiD the Turtle said:
Agreed, wonder if they'll become rare, expensive classic cars, given you wouldn't be able to buy an ICE car after that date. I also wonder if companies like Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. are ready for the switch. An electric Aston Martin doesn't sound as sexy.
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For me this will coincide with the move away from car ownership and drivers in cars certainly within my children's lifetime I expect both to be obselete you will simply put the details of your journey into an app and a suitable vehicle will arrive to transport you and your luggage to your destination removes the dependence on charging outside homes etc and standardises vehicles which offers massive improvements in efficiency.
 
But all know austerity is a farce. Making the rich richer and everyone else poorer seems to be the only result of it.

vanpeebles said:
They are still obsessed with making everyone travel to city centres to work as well. They need to look at the reasons for people having to travel rather than just the vehicles used.
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They only make policies with London in mind :/
 
I think you'll still see some privately owned cars though, especially in more rural areas - perhaps they'll become more of a luxury as they were decades ago.... (I think eating meat could go the same way too)

having a low cost generic automated car at your disposal by the likes of uber etc.. would be very useful though, especially if they come with say a central a table so you could use your laptop etc.. on your commute - implement some ride sharing with colleagues or perhaps other workers from your building/nearby buildings and could be quite a nice commuting option... also if the vast majority of vehicles are automated & ride sharing becomes popular then I suspect traffic flow would be improved and congestion less of a problem
 
VincentHanna said:
I remember a bit on Topgear ages ago talking about how Hydrogen powered cars are more likely to be the future, not electric.

Has there been any progress in that area?
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If someone ever cracks cheap hydrogen generation and storage they will solve the worlds energy crisis sadly it isn't going to happen anytime soon much like nuclear fusion great in theory challenging in the real world!
 
dowie said:
having a low cost generic automated car at your disposal by the likes of uber etc.. would be very useful though, especially if they come with say a central a table so you could use your laptop etc.. on your commute - implement some ride sharing with colleagues or perhaps other workers from your building/nearby buildings and could be quite a nice commuting option... also if the vast majority of vehicles are automated & ride sharing becomes popular then I suspect traffic flow would be improved and congestion less of a problem
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That would be the dream, hopefully commuting like this comes sooner rather than later.
 
dowie said:
I think you'll still see some privately owned cars though, especially in more rural areas - perhaps they'll become more of a luxury as they were decades ago.... (I think eating meat could go the same way too)

having a low cost generic automated car at your disposal by the likes of uber etc.. would be very useful though, especially if they come with say a central a table so you could use your laptop etc.. on your commute - implement some ride sharing with colleagues or perhaps other workers from your building/nearby buildings and could be quite a nice commuting option... also if the vast majority of vehicles are automated & ride sharing becomes popular then I suspect traffic flow would be improved and congestion less of a problem
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This is the future I look forward to, be interesting to see if I live long enough for it to happen.
 
Ayahuasca said:
The number of people working from home is also going to increase by that time I'd imagine, it's already around 15% isn't it and increasing yearly.
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I think that's another key factor - we need to be a lot more intelligent about where we work with flexible office spaces etc. Being able to work where or near to where you live (ideally within 10 mils/cycle/ebike distance) will go a long way to reducing our reliance on cars.
 
I wonder how much of this plan is to reduce/remove our reliance on fuel from the Middle East? Not read the whole thread so apologies if this has been covered..
 
Glaucus said:
The grid is not always strained. In fact 1 million ev's cars with timed charging over night, would actually improving the national grid,and that's with zero improvements to it. Currently there's just over 100,000 and that includes the tiny range plugins.
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Well smart charger are the answer, but not everyone will have them, in the near future maybe later on but straight away. It will be the LV network that would have the issue with to many power plugging EV cars in the network that could local LV networks to trip out or other issues. The HV network should be fine. Zero improvements????

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com...ric-vehicles-drain-the-uk-s-power-supply.html
 
Now that nobody will overtake anymore, someone could develop charging/power strips on motorways, major trunk roads with the onboard computer wirelessly relaying the electrical cost to a central location for billing.

I would name it FullScalextric :D
 
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