AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

[Molesy79]

That's a pretty low base clock speed at 2.6 ghz - be not so good when rendering massive video files and it drops to that speed.

I can't see them overclocking massively well either, those couple of buck a chip saving on soldering will cost Intel dearly...

 

[N19h7m4r3]

What's up with the Intel 14 core? It's actually got a decent baseblock. It's higher than the 12 core as well. How odd.

 

[mmj_uk]

Better quality die I assume, 12 core is the base model so it'll probably be the worst quality ones.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

How to Install Threadripper, and features a "stock"? Heatsink.

 

[Combat squirrel]

How to Install Threadripper, and features a "stock"? Heatsink.

Jazzzzzzzzzz club, NICE !

 

[gavinh87]

How to Install Threadripper, and features a "stock"? Heatsink.

That's an interesting socket.
I noticed the edit when he put the heatsink on, I was thinking to myself that's nowhere near the holes!

 

[Rroff]

How to Install Threadripper, and features a "stock"? Heatsink.

I wonder how many people outside of IT (support/infrastructure) professionals (and some in building trades, etc.) actually have a Torx set heh.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

I wonder how many people outside of IT (support/infrastructure) professionals (and some in building trades, etc.) actually have a Torx set heh.

I would actually guess that most people with a decent set of tools probably own a torx set.

 

[gavinh87]

I wonder how many people outside of IT (support/infrastructure) professionals (and some in building trades, etc.) actually have a Torx set heh.

I did wonder this. Is this amd spec? I mean they could use hex heads instead.
Or amd have been nice and included a torx key

 

[Rroff]

I would actually guess that most people with a decent set of tools probably own a torx set.

Quite a lot of people don't though in my experience - to both. I foresee a few people asking to borrow mine heh.

 

[~>Dg<~]

well most pound shops sell those every head in a small tub dont they.

nice design better than the big rat traps.

 

[Telecaster]

Quite a lot of people don't though in my experience - to both. I foresee a few people asking to borrow mine heh.

I'd expect the motherboard manufacturers to include a cheap throwaway torx drive in the box with the board, same as you get a screwdriver with some CPU air coolers.

 

[Rroff]

I dunno - the primary focus for the platform is towards the kind of people who'd already be equipped while its actually quite attractive for those in broader market segments as well.

 

[maonayze]

Cracking Socket design for Threadripper, fair play. I like it

 

[JoshR1989]

I like that, feel a hole burning in my wallet...... about time I moved from my z97 set up I think.
Josh.

 

[Jamin280672]

Having the 4 dies surprised me a bit, especially when two of them are disabled. So theoretically could we see 24 and 32 core threadripper CPUs?? Or if they can use 3 of the dies that opens up the possibility of 18 cores. (6 cores on each die).

They are dummies / spacers, just blocks, no way to enable them, theres nothing in them, they are put there to stop the IHS from bowing under pressure from just having 2 cores under such a large package. http://www.pcworld.com/article/3211...en-threadripper-has-two-mysterious-chips.html

But this from AMD along with Infinity Fabric opens the door upto much wider possibilities, they could quite easily remove those spacers, and stick an extra 8/16 die in there, very quickly and easily you suddenly have a 24/48 CPU or remove both spacers and you have an 32/64 CPU, and with them moving to 7nm next year, thats a die shrink, they could get even more under there if they can keep the TDP down, Intel are rushing out a whole new bunch of useless toasters at the moment, just take a look at the 7800X with X299, AMD's 1600 matches its speeds for more than half the price.

In 2018 when AMD start working on their Navi GPUs, as far as im aware, there intentions are to use infinity fabric with those too, like multiple die's onto one package to create a very fast GPU.

This is a bit long winded, but its a great watch explaining what the possibilities are for AMD with Infinity Fabric:

 

[Panos]

They are dummies / spacers, just blocks, no way to enable them, theres nothing in them, they are put there to stop the IHS from bowing under pressure from just having 2 cores under such a large package. http://www.pcworld.com/article/3211...en-threadripper-has-two-mysterious-chips.html

But this from AMD along with Infinity Fabric opens the door upto much wider possibilities, they could quite easily remove those spacers, and stick an extra 8/16 die in there, very quickly and easily you suddenly have a 24/48 CPU or remove both spacers and you have an 32/64 CPU, and with them moving to 7nm next year, thats a die shrink, they could get even more under there if they can keep the TDP down, Intel are rushing out a whole new bunch of useless toasters at the moment, just take a look at the 7800X with X299, AMD's 1600 matches its speeds for more than half the price.

In 2018 when AMD start working on their Navi GPUs, as far as im aware, there intentions are to use infinity fabric with those too, like multiple die's onto one package to create a very fast GPU.

This is a bit long winded, but its a great watch explaining what the possibilities are for AMD with Infinity Fabric:

Vega is using Infinity Fabric also. Also given the price of the EPYC CPUs doesn't make much sense atm. You can buy the 24 core for $1200

 

[Jamin280672]

Vega is using Infinity Fabric also. Also given the price of the EPYC CPUs doesn't make much sense atm. You can buy the 24 core for $1200

Just found this out actually myself about Vega, however, its still on the 14nm process, Navi will be half the size on 7nm, take a look at the video, its quite a good watch if you're into all this sort of thing.

Also what you mentioned about Eypc, this is true, but Eypc are aimed for servers, so targeting Xeons.

Threadripper is aimed at enthusiast users, so targeting X299, threadripper is a cutdown version of EPYC just like i7 7900k is a modified version of xeon e5

And then you have Ryzen, mainstream, targeting Z270, Z370 etc.

So Ryzen 7 vs i7, Ryzen 5 vs i5 and Ryzen 3 vs i3, theres nothing currently on AMDs agenda as far as im aware to compete with Pentiums, G4560 etc, but ive just had a look on overclockers website and seen the 2 R3's on there, they are cheap as chips.....no pun intended lol.

 

[Panos]

Just found this out actually myself about Vega, however, its still on the 14nm process, Navi will be half the size on 7nm, take a look at the video, its quite a good watch if you're into all this sort of thing.

Also what you mentioned about Eypc, this is true, but Eypc are aimed for servers, so targeting Xeons.

Threadripper is aimed at enthusiast users, so targeting X299, threadripper is a cutdown version of EPYC just like i7 7900k is a modified version of xeon e5

And then you have Ryzen, mainstream, targeting Z270, Z370 etc.

So Ryzen 7 vs i7, Ryzen 5 vs i5 and Ryzen 3 vs i3, theres nothing currently on AMDs agenda as far as im aware to compete with Pentiums, G4560 etc, but ive just had a look on overclockers website and seen the 2 R3's on there, they are cheap as chips.....no pun intended lol.

7nm process means nothing to the Infinity Fabric. Vega according to Raja is coming with IF.

Threadripper isn't a cut down EPYC per se similarly to Intel. The 16core EPYC goes for $750 and provides more PCI-e lanes, hardware encryption etc. So someone who might considering the 1920X could opt for the 7351 for less money and bigger ability to expand.

 

[Jamin280672]

Threadripper is here, the CPU's and boards are on pre-order on overclockers site, the MSI gaming Pro Carbon looks very nice, with a quite obvious 3 M.2 drive slots, also ive just learned that there will be a cheaper 8 core 16 thread version, and I knpow we already have this sort of in the form of Ryzen 7, however, this monster will have the 64 PCI-e lanes and a quad channel memory controller as an added bonus, expected to retail at about $500-$599 range.

CPU AMD® TR4 socket for AMD® Ryzen™ Threadripper™ Processors
Chipset AMD® X399
Memory • 8 x DDR4 memory slots, support up to 128GB
• Quad channel memory architecture**
• Supports DDR4 3600+(OC)/ 3466(OC)/ 3333(OC)/ 3200(OC)/ 3066(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 2667/ 2400/ 2133 MHz*
• Supports ECC UDIMM memory
Multi-GPU Support • Supports 4-Way AMD® CrossFire™ Technology
• Supports 4-Way NVIDIA® SLI™ Technology
PCI Slots • 4 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots
• 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 slots.
Storage • AMD® X399 Chipset
- 8 x SATA 6Gb/s ports*
- 3 x M.2 slots (Key M)*
- Supports up to PCIe 3.0 x4 and SATA 6Gb/s
- M2_1, M2_3 slots support 2242/ 2260 /2280 storage devices
- M2_2 slot supports 2242/ 2260 /2280/ 22110 storage devices
- Supports PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe storage
- Supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID 10 for SATA storage devices
USB • ASMedia® ASM3142 Chipset
- 1 x USB 3.1 Gen2 (SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps) Type-C port on the back panel
- 1 x USB 3.1 Gen2 (SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps) Type-A port on the back panel
• AMD® X399 Chipset
- 1 x USB 3.1 Gen2 (SuperSpeed USB 10Gbps) Type-C port through the internal USB connector
- 4 x USB 3.1 Gen1 (SuperSpeed USB) ports available through the internal USB connectors
- 6 x USB 2.0 (High-speed USB) ports (2 Type-A ports on the back panel, 4 ports available through the internal USB connectors)
• AMD® CPU
- 8 x USB 3.1 Gen1 (SuperSpeed USB) Type-A ports on the back panel
Audio • Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
- 7.1-Channel High Definition Audio
- Supports S/PDIF output
LAN • 1 x Intel® I211 Gigabit LAN controller
WIFI/Bluetooth • Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 card
- Supports Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual band (2.4GHz, 5GHz) up to 867 Mbps speed.
- Supports Dual Mode Bluetooth® 2.1, 2.1+EDR, 3.0, 4.0, BLE, 4.2