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WYNIR0 said:
Corroborated statistics please
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Well I would say 90% of those directly involved are opportunists (lots of them criminals already).... (from what I see in Person and in the media etc.. no hard stats to back that up)

There is however a common factor, I would say of Anarchist/ hard left agitation behind a lot of the narrative that ends of whipping up these issues to the point they explode into rioting.... slogans like 'no justice, no peace' and 'by any means' along with banners claiming people have 'blood on their hands' (often appearing to be held by white middle/ upper class people?) are hardly conducive to a rational calm approach to incidents.

Why do we so many hard left banners at the 'peaceful' demos that seem to happen around the same time as violent riots? It quite ironic given the propensity of some of the same people to accuse others of whipping up hate against 'people of colour' or certain religions after things such as group sexual abuse scandals or terrorist attacks (note the same banners coming out again?).

See also here and here

Isn't it amazing how quickly these banners pop up after these incidents.... one might conclude that certain Marxist groups (who quite often are driven by privileged whites and see also here for the International Secretary for the SWP descended from Lords....need I say more) are using certain groups of people as their 'useful idiots' in their drive to smash the state/ capitalism and bring in their supposed communist utopia..... 'Workers create all the wealth under capitalism. A new society can only be constructed when they collectively seize control of that wealth and plan its production and distribution according to need.' Well that plan worker out marvellously every time its been tried now....

see here and here


Which of course are normally met by claims of 'they weren't "true" socialist countries' or that Scandinavian countries are both 'socialist' and successful (they are not socialist as the means of production and distribution are largely not in the hands of the 'workers' and/ or the state. They are high tax social democracies which is entirely a different thing)
 
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mmj_uk said:
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very chilling his use of the phases 'equality' and 'social justice' from a video from so long ago in the modern context. He's right on the money with the 'crushed like cockroaches' comment in relation to the current cheerleaders for a lot of this stuff.

Marxist agitation is not, at its core, motivated by a desire to assist minorities and promote freedom. It is a dangerous purity ideology that wants to impose itself by violence.
 
Caracus2k said:
Well I would say 90% of those directly involved are opportunists (lots of them criminals already).... (from what I see in Person and in the media etc.. no hard stats to back that up)

There is however a common factor, I would say of Anarchist/ hard left agitation behind a lot of the narrative that ends of whipping up these issues to the point they explode into rioting.... slogans like 'no justice, no peace' and 'by any means' along with banners claiming people have 'blood on their hands' (often appearing to be held by white middle/ upper class people?) are hardly conducive to a rational calm approach to incidents.

Why do we so many hard left banners at the 'peaceful' demos that seem to happen around the same time as violent riots? It quite ironic given the propensity of some of the same people to accuse others of whipping up hate against 'people of colour' or certain religions after things such as group sexual abuse scandals or terrorist attacks (note the same banners coming out again?).

See also here and here

Isn't it amazing how quickly these banners pop up after these incidents.... one might conclude that certain Marxist groups (who quite often are driven by privileged whites and see also here for the International Secretary for the SWP descended from Lords....need I say more) are using certain groups of people as their 'useful idiots' in their drive to smash the state/ capitalism and bring in their supposed communist utopia.....
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Absolutely brilliant posting.

I absolutely agree that using phrases like "any means necessary" is unforgivable. The people holding the signs in your example look like people who haven't even looked at the sign they've been given and just want to go home.

Don't forget the BLM posse were allowed to party on a runway for several hours while the News helicopter tried to expose it as much as possible. Back then they wanted to make black people feel racially discriminated by POLLUTION. Yes POLLUTION is racist!

And then recently they decided to resurrect mark duggan which was just down right dangerous, did they actually completely forget what that caused last time round?
 
Johno please? said:
Our media should show videos like this now and again, to show what kind of BS the american police have to deal with.

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That video shows massive incompetence...

I don't even know what to write I've been thinking for like 5 minutes.

Basically, from this video alone they should be sacked immediately.
 
asim18 said:
And then recently they decided to resurrect mark duggan which was just down right dangerous, did they actually completely forget what that caused last time round?
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No, the extreme left know exactly what happened last time which is why they are doing it again. If you fail at the ballot box use violence.
 
platinum87 said:
That video shows massive incompetence...

I don't even know what to write I've been thinking for like 5 minutes.

Basically, from this video alone they should be sacked immediately.
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I think you may overestimate the ability of a typical human. Things go to rat **** very quickly for pretty much everyone in stressful situations like this
 
platinum87 said:
Anyone participating in a riot should be shot dead immediately without warning.
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I give up -why? Are you suggesting that the Death Penalty is a suitable punishment for (say) throwing rocks? Or just for uppity poor people?

To point out the obvious, England has a long tradition of Summer rioting. Pretty much every freedom you have you owe to rioters in the past, from Freedom of Speech to the Right to Vote. All earned mostly be riots. Of course a lot of riots are basically people blowing off steam - and the English like rioting almost as much as they like any form of fighting. But what you are suggesting is a Police State.
 
So, a person runs into some shop followed by a police man, who swallows something random (oh geez! suppose there is no innocent reason for that then?? and he just happens to die from it - for whatever reason no one knows?
And yet, its seem as racist.
Ok.
Sure.
Anyone with even half a brain, knows.
 
Evosparki said:
So, a person runs into some shop followed by a police man, who swallows something random (oh geez! suppose there is no innocent reason for that then?? and he just happens to die from it - for whatever reason no one knows?
And yet, its seem as racist.
Ok.
Sure.
Anyone with even half a brain, knows.
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The way I see it if a dealer swallows his stash to evade police & dies. He/she is a candidate for a Darwin Award. And I would like to say a prayer of thanks to the person for removing themselves from the gene pool.
 
JessieD said:
The way I see it if a dealer swallows his stash to evade police & dies. He/she is a candidate for a Darwin Award. And I would like to say a prayer of thanks to the person for removing themselves from the gene pool.
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Lol. Yeah, I get you.

However, no black man is a dealer, it just doesn't happen. Only white men do that! white people are the majority so no matter what other ethnicity's get up to its always the British white peoples fault - regardless, no matter what.
 
Meridian said:
I give up -why? Are you suggesting that the Death Penalty is a suitable punishment for (say) throwing rocks? Or just for uppity poor people?

To point out the obvious, England has a long tradition of Summer rioting. Pretty much every freedom you have you owe to rioters in the past, from Freedom of Speech to the Right to Vote. All earned mostly be riots. Of course a lot of riots are basically people blowing off steam - and the English like rioting almost as much as they like any form of fighting. But what you are suggesting is a Police State.
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GD Rule #788.2b: Violence heals all wounds. :D
 
Caracus2k said:
I think you may overestimate the ability of a typical human. Things go to rat **** very quickly for pretty much everyone in stressful situations like this
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BRB Analyzing a video from comfort of my pc chair being like... yeah i'd have done this and this m8, they should be fired!

Wonder how many gunfights said posters have been in themselves.... we'll guess zero.

It's adrenaline and the fact that situation went from 0 to 60 pretty much instantly. He pulled gun and within seconds and started shooting. You won't do things perfectly like in training because humans are not machines.
 
Evosparki said:
So, a person runs into some shop followed by a police man, who swallows something random (oh geez! suppose there is no innocent reason for that then?? and he just happens to die from it - for whatever reason no one knows?
And yet, its seem as racist.
Ok.
Sure.
Anyone with even half a brain, knows.
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I know right! I can't quite understand what goes through the protesters minds. I'm actually worried about sharing the streets with people of that iq level. It's scary. There's no rational thinking at all.
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
It's adrenaline and the fact that situation went from 0 to 60 pretty much instantly. He pulled gun and within seconds and started shooting. You won't do things perfectly like in training because humans are not machines.
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it isn't about doing things perfectly though, it is about basic drills and no this doesn't go out of the window just because shots are being fired and yes I am speaking from experience

I'll not comment on the policing aspect but I can comment that the use of firearms was rather sloppy
 
Now days, it seems people riot for literally nothing.
Yes, I understand tensions are high when people get shot by the police and so forth. The majority is resisting arrest (not saying this means it's ok to shoot somebody).
Why not just do as the police say?
 
CREATIVE!11 said:
BRB Analyzing a video from comfort of my pc chair being like... yeah i'd have done this and this m8, they should be fired!

Wonder how many gunfights said posters have been in themselves.... we'll guess zero.

It's adrenaline and the fact that situation went from 0 to 60 pretty much instantly. He pulled gun and within seconds and started shooting. You won't do things perfectly like in training because humans are not machines.
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If you watch the video and clear you mind from this nonsense, you will see clearly that they made so many mistakes in every point of the situation.

If you really cannot then you need to learn something, i understand why you don't want to believe me, go find armed police and ask them about it.
 
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