Summer Transfer Window 2017/18 - Rumours & Signings

You didn't sign him this summer though. Sure, if you compare him to £40m for Matic or £50m for Walker then you can say it's a reasonable fee but those weren't the fee's last year. Transfer fees have gone onto another level this season.

If you look at last summer, we signed Wijnaldum for £25m odd and Chelsea signed Kante for £30m odd. Now I'm not saying either were better or worse than Pogba as all that will cause is pages of debate and obviously they're not identical players but they are all central midfielders and I don't think even the biggest Utd fan would argue that Pogba performed 3 x better than either Wijnaldum or Kante did last year.
 
Completely mad prices right now... £200 million for Neymar? He is good but not worth those money. And £750K a week as well? It is just insane.. The football world is getting more and more mad. Wonder if there will be a crash at some stage?
 
BaZ87 said:
You didn't sign him this summer though. Sure, if you compare him to £40m for Matic or £50m for Walker then you can say it's a reasonable fee but those weren't the fee's last year. Transfer fees have gone onto another level this season.

If you look at last summer, we signed Wijnaldum for £25m odd and Chelsea signed Kante for £30m odd. Now I'm not saying either were better or worse than Pogba as all that will cause is pages of debate and obviously they're not identical players but they are all central midfielders and I don't think even the biggest Utd fan would argue that Pogba performed 3 x better than either Wijnaldum or Kante did last year.
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Kante isn't remotely the same kind of player as Pogba so pointless mentioning him as an alternative really (also he only wanted to move to one club which immediately lowers his value). If we signed Kante as a creative midfielder I don't think we would have done too well. Wijnaldum I haven't seen too much of really.

Pogba is a very complete player, if he can add a few more goals he can easily be the best central midfielder in the league. You spot people who think he's trash because they don't actually watch him play and just look at stats/read tweets..
 
If you compare poga at Utd to Pogb at juventus he hasn't been anywhere close so that level in his Utd season though.

He may come good he did have much better players around him at juventus and didn't have to play with a donkey fellani
 
He's scored a few less but he's just as good creatively which is his main role. You have to consider that the standard in EPL is much, much higher than Serie A.
 
Robbo said:
That's the question. Only a handful of clubs could afford him, people think there may be a Real Madrid vs Barca battle for him.

If he went for the sort of figures being quoted then it would make Neymar look pretty reasonable.
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I know arsenal were after him but he wont go for less then 100m. we offered something like 40-50m which lets be honest that is reasonable for a 18year old who had one good season and still unproven a bit. no way is he worth more then that .
 
Shamikebab said:
Kante isn't remotely the same kind of player as Pogba so pointless mentioning him as an alternative really (also he only wanted to move to one club which immediately lowers his value). If we signed Kante as a creative midfielder I don't think we would have done too well. Wijnaldum I haven't seen too much of really.

Pogba is a very complete player, if he can add a few more goals he can easily be the best central midfielder in the league. You spot people who think he's trash because they don't actually watch him play and just look at stats/read tweets..
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I acknowledged that they're different types of cm's and as you're not going to have transfers of near identical players every summer it's hard to find 100% accurate comparisons. The point was that Liverpool and Chelsea signed two very different central midfielders that performed, at the very least, at a comparable level to Pogba. Pogba being a slightly different kind of CM to Wijnaldum (ultimately their roles in their sides are very similar) isn't a justification for Pogba costing 3-4 times as much.

You mention Pogba being a complete player but I'd change that to say he has the potential to be a complete midfielder. At the moment he's very athletic and good on the ball - the defensive side of his game is pretty non existent and from an attacking point of view he doesn't score or assist consistently enough. You say if you signed Kante has a creative player you wouldn't have done well - if you signed Pogba simply as a creative player then you've not too well either.

As I said, this is a forum so we only deal with extremes. He's either amazing or **** and that's the consequence of being signed for a world record fee - people expect him to perform like one of the best players in the world every week and if he doesn't, he's rubbish.
 
So la liga have refused attempts by PSG lawyers to pay Neymars release fee.

So wonder what will happen now with regards to Neymar and his release fee.
 
BaZ87 said:
I acknowledged that they're different types of cm's and as you're not going to have transfers of near identical players every summer it's hard to find 100% accurate comparisons. The point was that Liverpool and Chelsea signed two very different central midfielders that performed, at the very least, at a comparable level to Pogba. Pogba being a slightly different kind of CM to Wijnaldum (ultimately their roles in their sides are very similar) isn't a justification for Pogba costing 3-4 times as much.
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DMs never go for anywhere near the amount that creative mids go for and Kante was at a small club moving to a big club. Wijnaldum was nowhere near as good as pogba last season and Pogba was constrained by his position and the players around him. Anyone who watched Pogba a lot last season will know he was very good. He wasn't 90m good but he was very good. There seems to be the myth that he was average to poor last year which is simply not true.

BaZ87 said:
You mention Pogba being a complete player but I'd change that to say he has the potential to be a complete midfielder. At the moment he's very athletic and good on the ball - the defensive side of his game is pretty non existent and from an attacking point of view he doesn't score or assist consistently enough. You say if you signed Kante has a creative player you wouldn't have done well - if you signed Pogba simply as a creative player then you've not too well either.
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His position for most of last season meant that he wasn't able to score many. If you consider the number of times he was directly involved in a goal though he would have much better stats. He might play the ball out prior to the assisting players final contribution. Pogba was stuck in a bit of a no mans land. Not being able to go forward enough to contribute as much as he could but also not being a DM either. I think this season will be the litmus test.

BaZ87 said:
As I said, this is a forum so we only deal with extremes. He's either amazing or **** and that's the consequence of being signed for a world record fee - people expect him to perform like one of the best players in the world every week and if he doesn't, he's rubbish.
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Yeah, most people base their opinion of a player on either stats, reputation, what seems to be the current popular opinion or a few flashes of a highlights reel on MOTD. Unless Pogba scored 20 goals and got 20 assists people who didn't watch him were always going to say he is underperforming.

robfosters said:
Neymar will be on £3060 an hour.

Just lol.
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Really, I thought his wage was £750,000. Are you assuming he is working and 8 hour day 5 days a week? Pretty sure professional footballers don't work that much!
 
Yas786 said:
So la liga have refused attempts by PSG lawyers to pay Neymars release fee.

So wonder what will happen now with regards to Neymar and his release fee.
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Apparently there's no legal foundation for them to reject it, so I imagine it'll go ahead whatever their protests.

There won't be an investigation into the transfer and FFP stuff until next year either.

Seems like Real Madrid and Barca are both after one of either Mbappe or Dembele, eye watering prices for both I suspect.
 
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