And that's not exactly true either. Sure the performance has improved but it's not as dramatic as you and Pmc25 are making it out to be.
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And that's not exactly true either. Sure the performance has improved but it's not as dramatic as you and Pmc25 are making it out to be.
Enough so AMD only has to rebrand it every generation. Even the 580 is just a 290 on roids.
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lol only at reference clocks
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Why?
Still with 290 performance
He/she is also a contender for the gunnies book of records ..for the largest wall of online text...
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Why did AMD stress the benefits of HBCC to games. Is it absolute Yes or No on this or will we see mixed results, maybe only a few games to benefit
love the Vega UFO
Except in a small number of titles no and nope.
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Why did AMD stress the benefits of HBCC to games. Is it absolute Yes or No on this or will we see mixed results, maybe only a few games to benefit
There is obviously more than memory bandwidth to it or both the FX and GTX1080ti would be crushing Vega.
That isn't to say Vega isn't capable of more and memory bandwidth bound.
Not dramatic?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_1080_strix_oc_11_gbps_review,13.html
Where you see 390X put 290X. 50mhz difference between 390X and 290X isn't that big overclock and most aftermarket 290X came with more than that either way.
Check the remaining gaming benchmarks also.
Not bad for a card came out back in 2013 and was vilified in here about it's power consumption compared to the GTX780Ti. However the higher priced 780Ti still should be used for another 22 years to break even, on power consumption savings. 290X/390X is holding very well against the GTX980, a card initially far better than it when it came out back all those years...
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Yea it's plain as day yet people will still argue about it. The 290x is a far better chip and it's not like it doesn't overclock either.
I remember to 290X fiasco with people saying that they were a "Sun Heater" although that may have been the case for the reference cards but my 290X Vapor X never went over 70C when gaming for hours. The 290X really shines with a waterblock though
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I'd find video reviews where you can see Kepler cards are actually running their proper boost clocks - I think the results will surprise some.
I'm guessing some have me on ignore here given how often they are repeating easily verifiable as wrong info after I've pointed it out.
The read/write latency is just as important as bandwidth in compute workloads. GDDR memory has very long read and write cycles which results in very high read/write latency. HBM however has short read/write cycles which makes is perfect memory for compute. I think this is the main reason why people expect Vega to be great mining card.
Trying to claim that a 780Ti or Titan Black is even remotely close to a 290X these days is ludicrous. There are a handful of games in which they compete, and a thimble full in which the Kepler cards actually win - those tend to be ones completely gimped by GameWorks, like Project Cars - but I'm not sure that's even the case anymore. The vast majority, it's a total whitewash.
You do realise that 290X is much faster than a 970, and faster than a 980 in the majority of more recent titles (some by 20-30%). It even competes with the 980TI in a few titles.
Like I said, I don't expect the kind of extraordinary uplift for Vega over its lifetime that Hawaii saw, but 20-30% within the first 12 months is not at all unreasonable.
Fiji saw ~20% in the first 12-18 months, and if we're to ignore HBM, architectural changes were significantly fewer Hawaii -> Fiji than Fiji -> Vega or Polaris -> Vega.
Go look at the 3 recent threads (search Kepler in the thread title) that link to a dozen or more actual video reviews that show the real story. I have no idea how some of the mainstream sites are benchmarking Kepler cards but they don't reflect what actual users of those cards will see.
I don't need to, I've seen the deltas in live machines with my own eyes.
Besides, you just have to look at where 290X or 390X cards score relative to NVIDIA's 9 series, which themselves trounce the 7 series in the vast majority of games ... that may be partly due to gimping, but that's the 'joy' of owning older NVIDIA cards. The 390X even approaches and beats the 1070 in a handful of benches ... good luck ever getting that with a Kepler card.
Besides, you just have to look at where 290X or 390X cards score relative to NVIDIA's 9 series, which themselves trounce the 7 series in the vast majority of games ... that may be partly due to gimping, but that's the 'joy' of owning older NVIDIA cards. The 390X even approaches and beats the 1070 in a handful of benches ... good luck ever getting that with a Kepler card.
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