google employee's internal diversity memo goes viral

Mr Jack said:
Patriarchy casts men as the rational, strong, tough ones and women as the soft, emotional, caring ones.
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No that's simply a gender difference.

An actual patriarchy is one which pushes the make agenda over the female one. In today's society I don't agree that's the case. In fact I would argue that females have more influence and control on our current society than males do.
 
Hades said:
In fact I would argue that females have more influence and control on our current society than males do.
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Its called Gynocentrism and if you want a perfect example of it, you need look no further then the judiciary. If we applied the same sentencing that women receive, to men currently serving in prison, 5/6 of the current men in prison, would be free.
 
Ayahuasca said:
There's only one level below a CIS white male, an unattractive, nerdy CIS white male because whilst some of these women will happily want eqaulity and not to be discriminated themselves for who/what they are they absolutely despise and look down upon those men for how they look and act and there's a large number of men in software development with autism/aspergers but real disorders don't matter compared to made up ones.
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I'd say MOST people who work in a skilled IT role have it in some form. It just attracts a certain kind of mind. But people with autism don't give a **** what people think or say about them (and usually speak their mind) which is probably what the SJWs hate :p
 
Nasher said:
I'd say MOST people who work in a skilled IT role have it in some form. It just attracts a certain kind of mind. But people with autism don't give a **** what people think or say about them (and usually speak their mind) which is probably what the SJWs hate :p
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not exactly true that, although you're right about speaking their mind.
 
LateX'Dog said:
And there goes your Patriarchy. Maybe this will help you
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Typical Marxist nonsense in full effect here I see.

Much like economic and political marxism which are also complete failures every time they are tried....

Cultural/ social marxism are also failures.

But the adherents of the faith system that is marxism, much like a religious cult, can always be counted on to blame the failure of the experiment on it not being Marxist enough!
 
Angilion said:
Of course, the real reason for "diversity" (which is the opposite of actual diversity because it relies on the belief that all people in a biological group are the same)
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This is a straw-man argument. People calling for more diversity in the tech industry don't believe that everyone in a biological group is the same. Quite the opposite: they believe traditional gendered stereotypes (for example, ability to cope with stress as suggested in the guy's manifesto) don't hold true for many women.

The belief that it's ability that's stopping more women from joining and staying in the tech industry is nonsense anyway.

If the software industry was once a 50:50 mix between men and women, what's happened to change that? Has the work changed significantly or has the industry changed significantly?

Look at Uber's recent problems (executives using company credit cards for prostitutes and sexual harassment being swept under the carpet). It suggests that it's the industry that's hostile to women, not the work.

And for the avoidance of doubt, I'm not suggesting that all women have the capability to work in tech. There's a lot of smart women who could though.
 
LateX'Dog said:
Sorry, are you accusing me of being a Marxist?
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Nope just commenting of the belief itself. It like the no true Scotsmen fallacy everything marxism fails it wasn't 'true' marxism or wasn't Marxist enough!

Witness certain people on the left scrambling around to justify their previous statements Re Venezuela
 
VincentHanna said:
I think you use the word Marxist too much and are a bit obsessed by it.

Like I said elsewhere, most people on the street wouldn't have a clue what it even means.
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Maybe the should be? After all it's the route ideology behind any policy that seeks to achieve some form of equality of outcome by force/ compulsion. It's an insidious and corrosive belief that masquerades behind false premises of fairness.
 
Craterloads said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ndex.html#scso=uid_WYriowALPQcKwA6GPASTzw_1:0

Given we have so many triggered AWMs on these forums, this should be right up their ally.
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Usual claptrap... can you imagine the outrage if someone put up a board outside a shop or restaurant announcing that say for example people from a certain ethnic group were either not welcome or had to pay a surcharge due to a perception that they were from a group that was more strongly represented in some statistic or another? Frankly trying to dismiss critics of nonsense like this as being angry white men is a just like the 'you can't be racist to white people' belief which is a load of rubbish to.

I don't know the law in the Australian state but this would be illegal in the UK just like a sign saying no dogs, no *insert nationality*, no *insert perceived racial identity*

Are you for such discrimination or against it?
 
It's a bit ridiculous but it's not discriminating as it sounds like the extra charge is voluntary?

You can just go in and buy a coffee at the same price as a woman and not pay extra.

It's a PR stunt/talking point. I'm not here to defend it though.
 
Craterloads said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ndex.html#scso=uid_WYriowALPQcKwA6GPASTzw_1:0

Given we have so many triggered AWMs on these forums, this should be right up their ally.
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First off, it's obviously discriminating against one gender. If my wife earns more than me, do I still have to pay? Secondly, the "voluntary donation" (including the "We've had men travel across town to visit us and pay 'the man tax' and throw some extra in the donation jar.") says to me that once again, women are the poor little things with no agency of their own who only get anywhere though the agency and patronage of men. Probably not what they were aiming for.

I doubt someone would get away with a women tax just because women live longer, make more use of the NHS than men, have a greater environmental impact by having children, so I see this as nothing more than a silly publicity stunt that again shows the double standards of your typical SJW.
 
VincentHanna said:
It's a bit ridiculous but it's not discriminating as it sounds like the extra charge is voluntary?

You can just go in and buy a coffee at the same price as a woman and not pay extra.

It's a PR stunt/talking point. I'm not here to defend it though.
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How would it go down if say the nhs asked for voluntary contributions from women to fund things like gaenological services or midwifery? I imagine like a turd sandwich.
 
I know a guy who has run/been employed by games studios in the USA, Canada and UK and he swears that female coders were the best in the various companies.
 
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