Right... well, there we go then. You share the same mindset as a terrorist. At least you can understand why they do it. Does this make you a sympathiser?
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Right... well, there we go then. You share the same mindset as a terrorist. At least you can understand why they do it. Does this make you a sympathiser?
I suspect VincentHanna was doing you the courtesy of assuming you meant fight fire with fire in some remotely plausible and realistic way.
I never said fight fire with fire! Just pointing out the stupidity of that statement.
You do read some of the proposed solutions around here don't you? Plausible and realistic aren't high up on the criteria required
Though in Dis86's defence I don't think he was being serious, just making a point
You do read some of the proposed solutions around here don't you? Plausible and realistic aren't high up on the criteria required
Though in Dis86's defence I don't think he was being serious, just making a point
Ta chuck!
You do read some of the proposed solutions around here don't you? Plausible and realistic aren't high up on the criteria required
Though in Dis86's defence I don't think he was being serious, just making a point
With the amount of non-apologists in here it's hard to tell
In my opinion, he has a point.
Not really.
The main reason Charlottesville became such a big deal was Trumps refusal to condemn the actions of the Neo Nazis singularly. In contrast he is on twitter condemning Muslims moments after events happen (even if they don't end up actually being terror attacks).
Islamic terrorism is taken out of all proportion to the risk it actually poses in everyday life.
So arguably the political set will only give a **** about you if your killed by a Muslim. Or at least a significant proportion of the media.
To be fair to him most terrorists are shot and killed these days, so there aren't many to actually lock up.
Isn't Neo-Nazism, then?
How often do you see it reported in here or on the news?
Unfortunately I don't know of any UK data on it but in the US far right terrorism has been at play in more incidents than Islamic terror, and not far behind in the death stake.
Islamic terror is "great" at "grand events", whereas far right extremism is at a consistent level, adding up the body count slowly to a similar level in the end.
It's again one of the reasons why Trumps inability to individually condemn the far right was seen as such a big issue.
Edit: For the UK we do know that about a third of people on that terror watchlist are far right suspects. There are several people on here however that refuse to acknowledge that they should also be treated the same as the Muslims on the same list. They claim it's because it's off topic in a Islamic terror thread, yet also refuse to answer in a far right thread.
So many come up with grand ideas about how we will solve the terror problem (as shown in this thread usually incarceration/removal without any due process, at its best), but it should only affect the Muslims, no one else...
It's not about the event, it's about what they can link to it. If it fits their "they're different to me" ideologue then they can use it
Same to an extent with the media. There are multiple murderes every day in Europe, but if it's potentially an Islamic terror attack then it's reported. If ya not, then it's not reported. The idea that perhaps the media and politicians are trying to protect them is falicious at best.
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He did though, he said both sides were acting badly?
It's a cop out, and even if it wasn't it doesn't really matter. He was forced to make a statement specifically singling out the far right, and then the next day complained about the fact he had to single them out.
With the amount of non-apologists in here it's hard to tell
Now what did you say a page or two back hmmmmm..oh yes
Do you walk in to doors as well... can't stop laughing
Now what did you say a page or two back hmmmmm..oh yes
Do you walk in to doors as well... can't stop laughing
Your so smart m8
This isn't true, i don't know if could find it again because it was a podcast, pretty sure it JRE with an intelligence expert, they have 20 as many people working on extreme Islamic terror compared to far right extremists.
Where are you reading this stuff? the last time i read something regarding terrorism stats within the EU was this website..
https://www.csis.org/analysis/trends-extremist-violence-and-terrorism-europe-through-end-2016
Am i missing something here?
99% of casualties and 95% of fatalities and yet only 72% of them are arrested.
Well a lot of them are killed or commit suicide for one and secondarily, it's a lot easier to catch political extremists when you say it's about islamic terrorism as a by-product.
Well a lot of them are killed or commit suicide for one and secondarily, it's a lot easier to catch political extremists when you say it's about islamic terrorism as a by-product.
Because they shouldn't be singled out, both as bad as each other.
Here's the US data that I was talking about. We're talking cross purposes.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...k-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/
Yes, last year wasn't a good year on the terrorism front in Europe. There's definitely been an upswing in the last couple of years, but as shown above it's still way below the heights we saw at the end of last century.
We need to deal with the problems, but let's deal with all the problems realistically. A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist, so let's deal with them equally. Arguing that we should intern millions without trial and banning millions from renting vehicles is not a realistic solution, just as it wouldn't be a realistic solution if we were to include white non Muslims in those incarcerations and bans.
Yes, yes, apologist talk etc etc. We should be jumping down the throats of people that aren't like "us" instead, I get it...
Or the other 28% are non Islamic terrorists.
The "anti-fascist" Anitfa are far worse, far more evil and far MORE fascist than the idiot neo-nazi cosplayers.