What's the current practice regarding a electric hand brake when taking your test.

Electric handbrakes are normally automatic. They will engage when stopped, and will disengage when you apply enough torque

No they're not, even on auto cars... more recently that's becoming more common - but many cars still have the auto-hold function as a paid-for option on top of an electric handbrake.
 
Not true. Have driven manual vw golf's and epb is automatic when car has stopped, and it disengages itself when you pull away. Doesn't roll back on hills either.

Interesting question this. If one learnt in a auto handbrake car and passed test in one, they would never develop the skills needed to operate a manual handbrake and do hill starts. Quite fundamental skills.

Is it still correct that if you pass in an auto you can't drive a manual? Similar thing isn't it.


Yeah it still applies for auto gearboxes, you can drive both on a manual test, but only autos on an auto test.
 
Are you allowed to use flappy paddles on a manual test? It's still manual but I guess with it being different to a standard manual they might take issue with it.

Edit: Probably not thinking about it, forgot you wouldn't get to use the clutch pedal, if that matters.
 
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Are you allowed to use flappy paddles on a manual test? It's still manual but I guess with it being different to a standard manual they might take issue with it.

Edit: Probably not thinking about it, forgot you wouldn't get to use the clutch pedal, if that matters.

It's the lack of a clutch, I think, that determines whether or not the car is an automatic or manual for the purposes of a driving license!
 
Weirdly unless it's a torque converter gearbox, paddle shift is still considered a manual for licencing I think.

Not sure about lessons/test. But it would be silly learning to drive a "manual" in a car with paddles, no clutch pedal or proper handbrake. That won't teach you anything about using a manual.
 
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Jumping in my Dads 5 series is the most relaxing thing, due to it being auto with automatic handbrake. When you come to a stop, it applies the brake and puts the car into park automatically, so you can take your foot off the foot brake. Then, squeeze the accelerator slightly and it automatically switches everything back.

Quite easy compared to my car with manual everything!
 
Jumping in my Dads 5 series is the most relaxing thing, due to it being auto with automatic handbrake. When you come to a stop, it applies the brake and puts the car into park automatically, so you can take your foot off the foot brake. Then, squeeze the accelerator slightly and it automatically switches everything back.

Quite easy compared to my car with manual everything!

doesn't pre facelift have a hill start assist ? ;) :D
 
Jumping in my Dads 5 series is the most relaxing thing, due to it being auto with automatic handbrake. When you come to a stop, it applies the brake and puts the car into park automatically, so you can take your foot off the foot brake. Then, squeeze the accelerator slightly and it automatically switches everything back.

Quite easy compared to my car with manual everything!

You're right, it's a damn chore having to bump the E21 into N at stop lights and apply slight pressure on that there brake pedal. All of the time saved I could be doing other things like trying to stare at the chick in the car next to me and look away quickly when she looks over.
 
doesn't pre facelift have a hill start assist ? ;) :D

We weren't deemed to need such frivolity :p

You're right, it's a damn chore having to bump the E21 into N at stop lights and apply slight pressure on that there brake pedal. All of the time saved I could be doing other things like trying to stare at the chick in the car next to me and look away quickly when she looks over.

Indeed. I am however comparing it to a manual car with manual handbrake. While it's no "chore" as such, it's nice to know the car does it all itself.

I'd consider it much the same vein as features like a heated steering wheel. Necessity? Not at all. Nice to have? Indeed.
 
Electronic hand brakes are a con to make more money. It's pointless for fat lazy people who cba to do anything and really should just get self driving cars or go on a bus. The manufacturers love them cos when they brake nobody else can fit them and they charge £800 for the whole thing instead of £30 for a new handbrake cable. :P

Its similar to dual mass flywheel and various other overpriced rubbish they put in modern cars.

As for a driving test, I don't think you should be able to use a electric handbrake because you won't be able to drive a car with a proper handbrake properly and people will forget to put it on when they stop.

Also people who sit there holding the foot brake at lights are really annoying at night with the 9000w led brakelight burning into my eyes. Plz use the handbrake.
 
Also people who sit there holding the foot brake at lights are really annoying at night with the 9000w led brakelight burning into my eyes. Plz use the handbrake.

Ohh Range Rovers are the worst for that, be seeing lights for days if you get stuck behind one in a queue at night
 
I actually have put sunglasses on a night before for that very reason. Probably got some odd looks but it's better than going blind.
 
Ohh Range Rovers are the worst for that, be seeing lights for days if you get stuck behind one in a queue at night
Yeah those are really bad and they probably have auto handbrake anyway......

So when these people are sitting there holding the brakes on for 30mins in a queue are they fully holding it down or just touching it? They should makes the pedals really heavy like on my sti so they get leg ache :p
 
Yeah those are really bad and they probably have auto handbrake anyway......

So when these people are sitting there holding the brakes on for 30mins in a queue are they fully holding it down or just touching it? They should makes the pedals really heavy like on my sti so they get leg ache :p


Even better just auto-dim the lights if the vehicle isnt moving.

Modern land rovers are the worst for lights in general though, front and back.
 
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