Chipping 1.1 Seicento Sporting

[TW]Fox said:
Well kudos for that - at least you are not one of these people who claims to really enjoy modifying their car, and its well worth it, its a learning curve blah blah whose idea of a performance mod involves taking it to the local tuner and handing over a cheque.

Oh dear, Im probably guilty of most of the things been metioned here. Ive spent more money on my car than the value I originally bought it for. I research and buy bits for my car but I hand it over to a garage with all the bits and get them to fit them all.

Fair play to you Gex, if you enjoy what you with the car then its never a waste of time IMO.
 
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I'm sure everybody goes through a car modding phase in their life. Especially at 17 when it's all so new. I myself went through it wanting to put bodykits and turbos on a ford ka, it was what I had and could afford at the time.

A few years later you mature more and think what the hell was I thinking. It was fun at the time but looking back you think what a tool I was and what a waste of money :).

Im glad the fast and furious phase has passed. Nothing annoyed me more than washer leds and neons. Arghh lexus style lights.

Have you declared all your mods to the insurer???? I bet it's cheaper to insure a standard 2.0litre than it is to insure a modded cinq.
 
[TW]Fox said:
But your end result is a monster of a 300bhp 200SX. It's a little different..

Not really, if you do it for the enjoyment and the gain in knowledge does it really matter. Im sure there are plenty of people that think Im a fool for spending so much money on a Nissan, considering how much money I would have lost on the car, but ultimately I dont really care as it is a hobby of which I get enjoyment out of it.

Oh and it should be nigh 350bhp by the end of the week :D
 
johnnyfive said:
I'm sure everybody goes through a car modding phase in their life. Especially at 17 when it's all so new. I myself went through it wanting to put bodykits and turbos on a ford ka, it was what I had and could afford at the time.

A few years later you mature more and think what the hell was I thinking. It was fun at the time but looking back you think what a tool I was and what a waste of money :).

Im glad the fast and furious phase has passed. Nothing annoyed me more than washer leds and neons. Arghh lexus style lights.

Im 36 and love modding my car although apart from the aftermarket wheels you wouldnt know it was modded. The money issue isnt a problem for me, I know Im losing money on the car but dont really care.
 
I wouldn't buy a cinq myself, but i can seriously understand modifying i've spent 9x times the worth of my car on modifying. :S

With regards to the chipping, i wouldn't buy a chip for the cinq yet as there is other areas that need attention. Where you could gain more performance. This thread has had some good suggestions.
 
I have spent 2k on a 300 quid car, although i should be worth 4 odd grand at then end :) At the end of it fox you can modify whatever car you like, its not about figures and specs, its about making what YOU want and learning how your car works.
 
[huzeeee] said:
I have spent 2k on a 300 quid car, although i should be worth 4 odd grand at then end :)

Sounds like a classic Mini. Again, not my cup of tea but you can understand it with a car like that..
 
[TW]Fox said:
But your end result is a monster of a 300bhp 200SX. It's a little different..

'ang on. you can't say fair enough and that you apologise and then carry on!! :p

ThomP said:
With regards to the chipping, i wouldn't buy a chip for the cinq yet as there is other areas that need attention. Where you could gain more performance. This thread has had some good suggestions.

when the chip costs around £40 though, as its developed by a fellow modifying type friendly person.. it is worth it for sure. :)

[TW]Fox said:
Sounds like a classic Mini. Again, not my cup of tea but you can understand it with a car like that..

Fiat kinda invented the small car with the 500, and the Cinquecento was the recarnation of it - when it was released it was described by many people as a new mini. Not in a BMW new mini kinda way, but in the way it drove and felt kinda way.
 
So I'm reading this in 2017 and I had to make an account to comment on this...

It's been 10 years since these comments are made and I have a 18 year old SPI Seicento which I've spent large amounts of money on not just modifying, but keeping it on the road. Why? Because it means a lot to me and I enjoy modifying it and there is still a huge scene for these aging little cars. Not only that Ive learnt my trade from them! They get a lot of stick but for people who've owned them and appreciate them for what they are and maintain them will tell you they are fantastic cars with bulletproof and highly modifiable engines. Besides I appreciate that they may not be everyone's cup of tea but who cares when you're doing what you love and meeting new and interesting people along the way.

Anyone who's serious about cars and wants to get a foot in the door into cheaper-end motorsport, modifying, or just car basics, I urge you to try one! Because they literally don't make cars like them anymore... probably due to safety reasons
 
Bit of a random thing to go searching for

They're just the c1/107 of 20 years ago really, basic motoring where you can kick the absolute **** out of the car day to day but still be well within speed limits
 
I think the 10 year old point still stands. It's expensive to tune a NA engine properly and not even worth it for something with mediocre power to begin with :p
 
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I think the 10 year old point still stands. It's expensive to tune a NA engine properly and not even worth it for something with mediocre power to begin with :p

Indeed, manufacturer tunes are pretty spot on to begin with, its only with turbos can you get big gains by upping the boost (which is set for reliability and economy rather than power).

Eg for mine (2.5 n/a) the quotes were something like +10bhp for £300

For the money just put it towards some good tyres will give you more real world performance.
 
This is a very old thread but appreciate if Gex could reply to me.

I have a spi cinquecento I've put a punto 75 engine in.. it runs has plenty of power. But needs throttle to start and burbles.
Local mechanic thinks it's not meant to fire sll injectors at once as I've wired the 4 into the spi connector on original loom.

It's full 75 engine intake manifold etc..
I've just dropped in only change was wiring 4 injectors into the single injector.
I was told that would work

I seen Gex was doing 1. Spi to mpi.
What would I need
An mpi loom from a seicento and an ecu? From seicento mpi?
 
This is a very old thread but appreciate if Gex could reply to me.

I have a spi cinquecento I've put a punto 75 engine in.. it runs has plenty of power. But needs throttle to start and burbles.
Local mechanic thinks it's not meant to fire sll injectors at once as I've wired the 4 into the spi connector on original loom.

It's full 75 engine intake manifold etc..
I've just dropped in only change was wiring 4 injectors into the single injector.
I was told that would work

I seen Gex was doing 1. Spi to mpi.
What would I need
An mpi loom from a seicento and an ecu? From seicento mpi?

I'd be searching Fiatforum for 1242 MPI conversion threads, you'll find a lot on there and probably cover the question

Iirc back in the day used to be common to stick to SPI and take the cam from the punto 75 and keep the original 1.1 head/inlet etc on the 1.2 block. Although I know lots did start playing with MPI - originally Fiat only went MPI for the emissions iirc, most of the power benefit of the 75 was from cams/head/manifolds

These days I think the 16v conversions are a lot more common (1.2 and 1.4) but to be honest my knowledge of those is more or less 0, but I suspect you'll find your answer with some googling of fiatforum anyway
 
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