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Diddums said:
Dunno, but the perception of our current crop from the outside must be LOL. Honestly there's no direction. There's no definitive plan. Everyone involved is changing their mind every 5 mins and the rest are just standing around picking their noses trying hard not to get dragged in to it. It's funny how when the times are good the papers have hundreds of political names to report on day in and day out, yet since the vote we can probably count the prominent political figures on two hands.

At a time when we need to be seen as strong and unrelenting, we're that kid in the school yard kicking a stone around with his hands in his pockets whilst looking down at his shoes, waiting for one of the cool kids to throw out a lifeline. It's a disgrace and we don't have a single politician willing and able to step up and crack on. Instead we have "dunno lol" May, "let's all be bffs" Corbyn and Bojo.

Honestly at this point in time anything is better than the shower of **** we have. Left, right, doesn't matter, just someone willing to lay out the law and crack on will have more respect from the political stage than the limp wristed idiots we have now.

Say what you want about Thatcher, at least she picked her guns and stuck to them till the end.
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soundb0y said:
Can't Boris just stand up already and lead us all to salvation
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Something has to give way as we are going nowhere at the moment.
 
I think Labour will get in next time unfortunately. It will be awful with Abbot and Corbstello running the show.

Having said that, the current Convervative govt is a train wreck anyway. We never see real leadership anymore. Love or hate the likes of Thatcher and Blair at least they stood up in front of their country and led from the front. We never see May and frankly I've got no idea what Labours direction over Brexit is (anyone know if they are for it or against it? I guess it depends what they think will get them most votes that week).
 
Hades said:
I think Labour will get in next time unfortunately. It will be awful with Abbot and Corbstello running the show.

Having said that, the current Convervative govt is a train wreck anyway. We never see real leadership anymore. Love or hate the likes of Thatcher and Blair at least they stood up in front of their country and led from the front. We never see May and frankly I've got no idea what Labours direction over Brexit is (anyone know if they are for it or against it? I guess it depends what they think will get them most votes that week).
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They seem vague on that.
 
I think we need a whole new set of politicians and parties myself.

The whole lot of them have their own set agenda and don't give a rat's hairy knapsack about the country.
 
We'll Brexit... the Pound will drop badly and only America will help us... then they'll start the whole Commie thing again and, after a disastrous 'Bay of Minet el-Beida Invasion', along with the Mexican Wall issues, they'll go back into 'Nam under some pretext.... and being their allies as well as in their pocket, we'll all be drafted. We might get lucky and get sent to Korea instead.
 
Arazi said:
They seem vague on that.
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Just like their budgets when it comes to purposed policies. ;) I struggle to take corbyn seriously, having nice ideas is one thing but anyone can promise the world. He never seem to have a clue on how it's all going to be paid for. Just surface promises with little though and planning put into how it will be backed up.
 
Corbin says the right things to gain popularity, he's got a good PR machine behind him but I don't see him as a leader. As for May, she's a waste of Oxygen. I'm a traditional blue voter (as is the part of the country I am from) and for the first time I just stare exasperated at her when she talks, she's clueless.

Politics is by far the most boring it has ever been in years. Sadly however, it's at a time when politics needs to be exciting and **** needs to get done.
 
FL630 said:
Corbin says the right things to gain popularity, he's got a good PR machine behind him but I don't see him as a leader. As for May, she's a waste of Oxygen. I'm a traditional blue voter (as is the part of the country I am from) and for the first time I just stare exasperated at her when she talks, she's clueless.

Politics is by far the most boring it has ever been in years. Sadly however, it's at a time when politics needs to be exciting and **** needs to get done.
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The thing is, he is the only one offering a direction, and i think direction is what people want, i think most of what is in their respective manifestos is not at the top of peoples minds, someone who offers the straightest\strong and reasonable direction will be who people vote for.
 
I support some of the things JC is saying but there are just too many deal-breakers in the Labour manifesto and soundbites for me to want them in government. I think we'd be headed for even more disaster under the current Labour crew. I shudder at the thought of Diane Abbott being in charge of anything. :eek:

I'm surprised a more centrist splinter group hasn't formed yet tbh. What an awful choice we had at the last GE (and are likely to have at the next one).

Pretty sure there were a fair number of protest Labour votes to try and rein in May's arrogance and horrible policies last GE. Seems like the tactic worked.
 
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Hopefully Conservatives will get in again not that they're great or anything but compared to Commy Corbyn even with a minority government they are strong and stable by comparison. Labour are already preparing for a run on the banks should they gain power and I'm not surprised when you have a leader whose response to Greenfell was to call for the taking of private property.
 
Limbo is your future in blighty.

Darth Mayder has proven to be immensely incompetent (someone should really check out her programming :p), Buffoon Johnson, whilst perhaps a better option than May, is still not a good option. Then you have the others such as Jacob Rees-Muppet that thinks food banks are ‘uplifting’.
They live in a different Universe!

Yes, Corbyn does say some of the right things, but then he also abstains on things like snoopers charter etc, but people tend not to hear about that. Labour do look more promising in the next election, which is why the money tree tories won't kick May out, because wouldn't that mean a whole new election?
They're not going to give up their lifestyle & possibly join us plebs are they? :rolleyes:
 
Labour don't deserve to ever get into power again, austerity is the medicine for their ill managed run of power. The same as the 80's the Tories are vilified but they dragged this country out of the bottom and handed them a solid economy.
I think we need to get to a situation where the long term needs are met not 5 year plans designed around getting re-elected.
 
Arazi said:
Good post.



I agree, but who, someone we haven't considered before? heres another spanner to throw in, suppose the Tories implode and split, Farage leads one side, Boris on the other and Corbyn with Labour, all doing battle in the next GE :)

e: To add, i heard Farage is meant to start a different party if the current fav wins the UKIP leadership, Anne-Marie Waters.

If he wants to lead a party why didnt he run again for the UKIP leadership? hmmm, something strange about that.

https://sbcnews.co.uk/sportsbook/2017/09/25/paddy-power-farage-breakaway-party-may-lead-death-ukip/
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Ukip is done, a new cross party is good idea to get support across the board from like minded MP's.
 
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