The end of a gaming era....

Completely the opposite, just spent £1700 on a 80/20 rig plus cobra racing seat and an OSW wheel plus a Oculasrift setup for my man cave sim racing room. Love it!!
 
not really, I just meant there were a few 'classics' - the existence of those doesn't necessitate owning almost every console... obviously this is all rather subjective stuff as no doubt others may well argue for a much wider range of titles etc..

Which means that if being a gamer requires owning the platforms needed to play the classics, being a gamer requires owning almost every gaming platform from the beginning. It's not even just a matter of a wider range. It would also be a matter of a different range. If you regard a game on a PS2 as a classic and I regard a game on a Spectrum as a classic, then if playing classics is what defines a gamer then a gamer would have to own both platforms and play both games. That's just with two people. In reality, there will be a billion or more different opinions on which games are classics, so that definition would lead to "gamer" being restricted to someone who owns almost every gaming platform and plays an unfeasible number of games. It could even be taken further than just platforms, since the same game can be quite different on different platforms. Elite on BBC B is a classic, for example, but is Elite on a Spectrum a classic? If it is, does that mean a gamer would have to own and play both?

I think that making owning and playing classic games part of the definition of "gamer" is too restrictive. So restrictive that in practice it would make the word meaningless because it wouldn't apply to anyone.
 
Which means that if being a gamer requires owning the platforms needed to play the classics, being a gamer requires owning almost every gaming platform from the beginning. It's not even just a matter of a wider range. It would also be a matter of a different range. If you regard a game on a PS2 as a classic and I regard a game on a Spectrum as a classic, then if playing classics is what defines a gamer then a gamer would have to own both platforms and play both games. That's just with two people. In reality, there will be a billion or more different opinions on which games are classics, so that definition would lead to "gamer" being restricted to someone who owns almost every gaming platform and plays an unfeasible number of games. It could even be taken further than just platforms, since the same game can be quite different on different platforms. Elite on BBC B is a classic, for example, but is Elite on a Spectrum a classic? If it is, does that mean a gamer would have to own and play both?

I think that making owning and playing classic games part of the definition of "gamer" is too restrictive. So restrictive that in practice it would make the word meaningless because it wouldn't apply to anyone.


not particularly it is rather subjective as pointed out before... you're conflating having multiple definitions that don't intersect with each other and then concluding that therefore no one can be a proper 'gamer' when really I was just pointing out that different people could have different subjective opinions - so long as they were narrow then plenty of people could fit a lot of people's idea of what a 'gamer' is etc.. (sure you can say that if multiple people have different ideas of what a 'gamer' is then no one is likely to fit every possible one - but that is rather a moot point - I'd be more interested in what the more general viewpoints were)

anyway I don't really want to sidetrack the thread 'debating' what ought to be a rather obvious point
 
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I stopped pc gaming nearly 2yrs ago. I was an avid pc gamer since the late 90s starting with Doom and Quake. But these last few years pc gaming is ridiculously expensive to keep up with the latest tech to play a comfortable frame rate with reasonably high graphical settings. It's a luxury I am not prepared to waste money on anymore. The price of upgrading GPUS for example has never been worse in my opinion even with inflation and other economic factors. So for now I have personally moved to the PS4, which while doesn't offer the same precision for me as a mouse and keyboard in shooters, has been equally as enjoyable, providing the game runs at 60fps - 30fps is fine for me in other genres.

With the upcoming release of the Xbox One X, I see even less reason (for me) to ever need to go back to pc gaming unless it is to revisit older pc game titles.
 
Back in 2003 with a temporary house and the birth of my first child circumstances meant I couldn't play games anymore. Things have got easier since but a long period away means I just don't have the attention span now. I can't get into games at all.

I used to be passionate about games. When I think about going to an arcade in the 1980's I get a tingly feeling of excitement. I adored my VIC20, C64 and Amiga days. Thinking of them brings feelings of real joy. I lost my life to Doom and various Quakes back in the early PC days and I adored that time. Like many of us here I was early to online gaming and some of my fondest moments were long nights playing online with a few cans of beer and chatting online.

I really miss that feeling of happiness so, so much. But I just can't settle down to play now. I get bored in minutes. I LOVE gaming but now it's more a matter of loving the memories. I really wish I could enjoy games again and I miss it so much.
Can relate so much to this :(
 
Last time I had a gaming desktop was 2009. Laptops, consoles & mobile/tablet replaced.

Portability + gameplay imo has greater utility & value than cutting edge graphics.
 
If you weren't feeling the need then I guess it's best to accommodate what your needs are.

Personally, I can see why if you're not motivated to game or maintain a system (upgrades etc) then it's best to say goodbye and move on.
 
My circumstances changed radically a couple of years ago, and I ended up getting a gaming-capable laptop last year rather than giving up completely. I've been pleasantly surprised at how capable a 9600M chipset is for most games, but then I was never one to throw a lot of money at graphical bells and whistles. I think my back's happier too... no more leaning forward over a desk (no matter how hard I tried to train myself not to).

I do, however, look forward to being able to get back into flight/racing sims on my mothballed three screen setup at some point in the future. You can't do that from a sofa!
 
My circumstances changed radically a couple of years ago, and I ended up getting a gaming-capable laptop last year rather than giving up completely. I've been pleasantly surprised at how capable a 9600M chipset is for most games, but then I was never one to throw a lot of money at graphical bells and whistles. I think my back's happier too... no more leaning forward over a desk (no matter how hard I tried to train myself not to).

I do, however, look forward to being able to get back into flight/racing sims on my mothballed three screen setup at some point in the future. You can't do that from a sofa!

It’s that guy with the brush shaft up his back? :D
 
It's so sad that xbox can't be a pc too. The xbxo one x for instance could charge an extra £100 to have it have the ability to have windows too. I'm sure it would be a very well optimised version of windows due to MS knowing the hardware well, and would allow gamers to have the best of both worlds, a full pc and a console.
 
I think its my age why I've gone of the PC,turning 50 soon and need to be more productive with my photography.

No reason you can't do both but good luck all the same.

I knew a guy older guy a long time back (that sadly died of cancer), he was gaming into his seventies, he used to use my credit card to secretly purchase graphics cards so his wife wouldn't know, he would pop the PC down mine for a 'repair' but really it was getting an upgrade! That guy was a teengager at heart serioualy.

I've just had a bit of a 'milestone' birthday myself and it got me thinking about gaming, a week later I'm addicted to Mario on the Nintendo Switch!
 
Sold my gaming rig 2 weeks ago and moved to an iMac. Can still play COD2/4 on it maxed out and it plays great.

All my browsing is done on a tablet and my iPhone when not using the iMac.

Never liked using laptops.
 
Nope, whereas I may have lost the upgrade every five minutes bug, I still love gaming on my PC and 34"Dell curved screen anything smalerl is for match three games etc.
 
I couldn't work without using a desk + monitor

Yes, technically this can be acomplished with a laptop, and it also allows me to take my workstation with me..

I just don't see the point, all of my work is cloud based and i would rather play my games on a PC than an Xbone or a ps4... eyesight is too bad for couch gaming, and i'm too stubborn to get glasses..

No matter what anyone says, you cannot be as productive with a touch-pad + laptop keyboard as you can with a desktop set-up.
 
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