Aside from a sense of relief that no innocent bystander was hurt in this event, I feel very little of anything else towards the individuals in the car, alive or otherwise. Perhaps my ability to judge a mistake from downright collective stupidity is at fault. Should people die for being downright collectively stupid? Plainly yes.
Boy, 15, admits causing crash in which five people died
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In fairness, a 15 year old whilst technically a child isn't ignorant of the fact that they aren't allowed to drive. And probably he knew the car was stolen.*insert image of Mexican pear*
Edit - to be slightly more helpful... lol wut?? How did you even get that from my post?
Blame absolutely can be apportioned all around. From the parents to the adults in the car to the older teenagers in the car. Probably all egged each other on.
I've got a friend who drove around in stolen cars a few times in his youth. He's a teacher now.
Youthful indiscretions aren't necessarily a good predictor of future economic or societal contribution.
A pretty sad story all around, really.
Youthful indiscretions aren't necessarily a good predictor of future economic or societal contribution.
A pretty sad story all around, really.
Wow.
Ocassionally I'll read a post on this forum and be dumbstruck by the attitude of the poster, but know that they're in the minority.
This thread, however, is so shockingly heartless I can't believe it.
So many 'holier than thou' do rights without an actual clue of the real world.
RIP to the poor lads who've lost their lives and my sympathies to their families, especially the children.
No one deserves to go through this, no matter what.
Ocassionally I'll read a post on this forum and be dumbstruck by the attitude of the poster, but know that they're in the minority.
This thread, however, is so shockingly heartless I can't believe it.
So many 'holier than thou' do rights without an actual clue of the real world.
RIP to the poor lads who've lost their lives and my sympathies to their families, especially the children.
No one deserves to go through this, no matter what.
Yes, I agree.
In the scenario the adults in the car really should have known better than to let the child drive a car (especially at speeds that caused the damage that resulted). I’m sure they all knew they were doing something naughty and criminal but a child is highly suggestable and if an adult consents to something dangerous (even if silently) then they will, to some extent, trust that adult isn’t putting them in serious danger... particularly when the child will know (as would be obvious in the scenario) that the adults would be put at risk by the child’s actions. “Oh wow they are letting me do this! Can’t be that risky then!”
It’s sad and tragic - truly terrible supervision and guidance, but I would not wish death or harm upon any of them.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I love this idea that crops up in threads like this that “people have no idea about the real world”. You know, if “the real world” means stealing cars and killing five people, you’re welcome to keep it. I’ll go on living in my fantasy land of not committing crimes and endangering people.
Mind you, I do feel a bit like Begbie berating Mrs Murphy for Spud being a junkie.
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Jesus Christ... I'd not read about that before now...
What they did was awful. Absolutely awful. But they were children and they knew exactly what they were doing.
Some people have some strange notion that children don't know they're doing wrong. They do. The simple fact is some kids are nothing short of evil but most know that they're doing something very wrong and still choose to do it.
It's funny that the kids are the victims now. Instead of the person whose car was stolen and written off.
And like you said the potential, tho not realised in this case thankfully, of a truly innocent victim being paralysed or worse.
I guess some people just can't bring themselves to look at children as anything other than innocents. One case that sticks in my mind is the two young teenage girls who murdered a local junkie in cold blood. Then texted each other joking about it. And even called a police car to pick them up near the scene of the crime and drive them home.
e: here we go
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-tortured-alcoholic-hartlepool-life-sentences
13 and 14 year old teenage girls murdered a 30-something woman in her own home, and showed no remorse at all.
Man, I feel old now. I was 11 when that happened and I remember it being all over the news and what have you.Jesus Christ... I'd not read about that before now...
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Well done Roland, hope you're proud of yourself.
In amongst people wanting the boys innards ripped out and comparing him to the James Bulger killers (which was premeditated murder) there are some reasoned comments here.
I reckon the older lads pinched the car and the youngsters piled in for a joyride. They took turns behind the wheel and we know what then happened.
Who doesn't remember how powerful peer pressure is when you're a kid? Daring each other to climb a big ladder on a building site, jump over a bonfire, or something else equally stupid!
We were all so impressionable, each of us buoyed up by bravado. The one-upmanship would escalate until someone ended up hurt from doing something stupid. Nobody wanted to be the first to back down.
Fast forward 20 years and we have Gta5. One can merrily steal cars and mow down pedestrians in HD. Yes there's an age restriction but kids will get their hands on it. We licence this stuff!
In real life someone who gets convicted of dangerous driving and TWOC gets a super light sentence due to prison overcrowding and what do they then do? The same again!
Society isn't to blame but it played its part. To write this poor kid off and wish all that nasty stuff on him is pathetic. He's already been told he'll receive "a substantial custodial sentence". What if he comes out in a few years as a rehabilitated grown man and visits schools telling young kids the story of how he killed his mates and was the only one to live and regret his actions, empowering them not to bow down to peer pressure?
Yes this was a stupid thing for him to do and undoubtedly his upbringing, the area he lives in and many other factors influenced his decision, but as per my post that many have torn into this was a kid who made a mistake with terrible consequences.
To lynch him is lazy and stupid.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...g-footage-shows-moment-scrambler-14031620.amp
More of those innocent children...
More of those innocent children...
To look at people like him with rose tinted spectacles is lazy and stupid. What if he's rehabilitated, what if he regrets it, what if...? What if none of that?
The fact of the matter is he did it. He drove in a dangerous manner in a stolen car that killed 5 people. He didnt give a crap. He could just have easily have killed innocents.
Comparing what he did to climbing ladders?! Are you damaged in the bloody head? There's a difference in taking risks that might get you a trip to a and e to one that can (and did) kill multiple people.
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Climbing ladders was the tip of the iceberg and just an example, I did much worse
Maybe I am damaged in the head, but I know the difference between a premeditated murder case (James Bulger) and a joyriding accident.
Calm down, your posts would have more gravitas if they weren't so hysterical.
Climbing ladders was the tip of the iceberg and just an example, I did much worse
Maybe I am damaged in the head, but I know the difference between a premeditated murder case (James Bulger) and a joyriding accident.
Calm down, your posts would have more gravitas if they weren't so hysterical.
And so would yours if they weren't so retarded. Please see the other example above for what your little darlings get up to but I suppose boys will be boys right? Tell that to that girl and her family.