First McDonalds, now Butlins

Chris Wilson · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:21

Is there a photo of this "traumatised" young woman wearing the garment in question anywhere?

Yaayuh! · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:22

terley said:
Its a security risk because thry could steal/shoplift/pickpocket/vandalize do anything.. and they couldnt be identified.. faces should not be covered.. its that simple.

It was a Hijab. It doesn't cover the face.

terley · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:23

Rossi~ said:
It was a Hijab. It doesn't cover the face.

Then they are wrong. I didnt read the op properley

Vonhelmet · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:26

Chris Wilson said:
Not on the dodgems at Butlins, no. It was probably some European legislation on `elf `n' safety that started all this. I can't recall any media coverage of the Queen on a dodgem at Butlins, or anywhere else for that matter, to say whether she's attempted to ride them wearing a scarf. I think she's more likely to be found riding one of her horses, side-saddle. At not a Butlins holiday camp....

Forget the queen for a minute... You said immigrants should integrate "visually and spiritually" and said they shouldn't be wearing headscarves. You didn't appear to be restricting this edict to the Butlins dodgems...

Raz · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:29

LabR@t said:
Simply ban it everywhere. No place for repressive dress code it the 21st century.

Technically it's only 21st century for Christianity and Christian majority countries.

Nothing wrong with the hijab if a woman choses to do so.

Anyway, if this is official policy then one would expect to see some signs stating what is and isn't allowed on the rides. Plenty of warning signs for various things but can't recall ever seeing one for a hijab...

silverblack · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:40

If she was that arsed about going on the dodgems she could have taken it off hardly the end of the world

Vonhelmet · 14 Dec 2017 at 14:42

silverblack said:
If she was that arsed about going on the dodgems she could have taken it off hardly the end of the world

It's hardly the end of the world if black people have to sit at the back of the bus, right?

silverblack · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:13

Vonhelmet said:
It's hardly the end of the world if black people have to sit at the back of the bus, right?

Eh

Its H&S not what you and the dad are thinking.

Vonhelmet · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:18

silverblack said:
Eh

Its H&S not what you and the dad are thinking.

Yes, but it’s not equally applied, therefore it appears that there is discrimination at work.

Honestly, it’s like people don’t even read the actual articles...

silverblack · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:24

It's at Butlins discretion who goes on the rides,if they felt there may be a problem then they can stop who they like.
It's like people have no common sense...

Vonhelmet · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:39

silverblack said:
It's at Butlins discretion who goes on the rides,if they felt there may be a problem then they can stop who they like.
It's like people have no common sense...

If "discretion" looks like "discrimination" based on little more than race or religion then there's a problem. As said, the father claims that others with looser clothing were let on without issue, and if so, that's a problem.

grimm · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:42

The sooner everyone becomes an atheist the better, then we wouldn't have any of this nonsense to deal with.

Vonhelmet · 14 Dec 2017 at 15:55

grimm said:
The sooner everyone becomes an atheist the better, then we wouldn't have any of this nonsense to deal with.

Ah, the old “throw the baby out with the bath water” approach.

Jean-F · 14 Dec 2017 at 16:39

silverblack said:
If she was that arsed about going on the dodgems she could have taken it off hardly the end of the world

I’m not taking sides here, but expecting a Muslim woman to remove her
hijab, is like expecting a Catholic not to genuflect when entering a church.

Avenged7Fold said:
So i can't wear a cross or a kipah walking down the street in Paris?

Maybe you’re kidding, I don’t know, but it’s only in Government
buildings in France that religious items like that are banned.

Avenged7Fold · 14 Dec 2017 at 16:49

Jean-F said:
Maybe you’re kidding, I don’t know, but it’s only in Government
buildings in France that religious items like that are banned.

I know this but the statement poster made said in public rather than public buildings. A weird fake fact that has recently made its rounds on OCuk GD for some reasons. Was just highlighting the point.

Puzzled · 14 Dec 2017 at 16:57

With the high profile incidents at theme parks over the last couple of years I'm not surprised they wouldn't budge. If you were a ride attendant on minimum wage would you go against the ride rules, the fact management backed him up shows its different to the McDonald's incident which looked more like poor training.

Avenged7Fold · 14 Dec 2017 at 17:04

Was the Mcdonalds guy a third party security firm?

If so, i can see why they might have treated it differently.

LabR@t · 14 Dec 2017 at 17:51

Vonhelmet said:
It's hardly the end of the world if black people have to sit at the back of the bus, right?

No comparison, you cant change skin colour you can remove restrictive clothing whilst riding a kids ride.

LabR@t · 14 Dec 2017 at 17:52

grimm said:
The sooner everyone becomes an atheist the better, then we wouldn't have any of this nonsense to deal with.

Agreed, religion is a mental defect left over from a time when it was useful to control the masses.

LabR@t · 14 Dec 2017 at 17:53

Vonhelmet said:
If "discretion" looks like "discrimination" based on little more than race or religion then there's a problem. As said, the father claims that others with looser clothing were let on without issue, and if so, that's a problem.

Looser clothing that covered their heads? What hats?