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The latest AMD Drivers break DX9 games in some circumstances

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Curlyriff said:
TBH if either Nvidia or AMD had to drop support for DX10 and earlier but allow for better stability and performance for DX11+ I honestly wouldn't be bothered. Things need to move forward at some point.
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Agreed! Older games would just move to Retrogaming. It will happen might not be in my life time. History repeats itself and older title on old software will require emulation.

No different from moving to a new console. Why does PC need to be any different? People are the first to cry when PC gaming isn't moving forward "Hold Back by Console"
Well wake up if you want the industry to move forward so does the software just like hardware.
 
Armageus said:
Are you just being deliberately difficult?

How is one quote from AMD in response to C&C Games, stating that it was unlikely to get any engineering resource, suddenly the same thing as AMD saying they will not fix issues with all of the DX9 and DX8 games that people have mentioned?
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It was a little bit of humour. Maybe you have banged your head on too many walls already :rolleyes:

At what point did I say AMD will not fix issues with all of the DX9 and DX8 games?
 
Armageus said:
No they just have a history of releasing drivers that kill expensive graphics cards :)
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And fixed that immediately, not say a big F you to the entire community and claim old games don't matter anymore. It's baffling that people are trying to make both cases equal really. So now we've moved on from people defending this astounding behavior to people saying oh no NV did it! AMD is free to do the same!
 
Muhammad.Abdelhameed said:
And fixed that immediately, not say a big F you to the entire community and claim old games don't matter anymore. It's baffling that people are trying to make both cases equal really. So now we've moved on from people defending this astounding behavior to people saying oh no NV did it! AMD is free to do the same!
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Not really. Just not all that bothered if DX9 games are broken. AMD's statement was clear that they were not worried about fixing one game at the time. Larger issues with more DX9 games may or may not get fixed but if it doesn't honestly zero worry this end.

However a driver that kills a new GPU and sets it alight. That to me seems more serious. They both have issues of different type but if you really want to make a point I would say that there is nothing to defend in terms of AMD and if they support decade old games.

And I would also say that the issue Nvidia had is worse than a game just not loading and they are not even close to equal.
 
Muhammed you're not seriously comparing drivers setting GPU's on fire with some DX9 games not working? really?
 
I love the Fake outrage by Doom112, the OP. He must think it's his birthday, a chance to shout from the rooftops about how bad AMD are.

This, like all things related to AMD, is been blown out of all proportion to the actual problem.

The OP is doing what he usually does, you just have to look at his post history to see his agenda. And if you try to be a realist and point out that's it not actually every Dx9 game, he does his usual thing there too, if you disagree with him, and that is accuse you of been an AMD fanboy or defender.

I am surprised by Gregster accusing a mod of defending AMD. Armageus has done nothing of the sort, only changed the thread title so it doesn't become a flamebait thread. If the title of the thread was Nvidia break all Dx9 titles and a mod changed it to reflect the truth, rather than wild speculation you would have had no problem with it.
 
melmac said:
I love the Fake outrage by Doom112, the OP. He must think it's his birthday, a chance to shout from the rooftops about how bad AMD are.

This, like all things related to AMD, is been blown out of all proportion to the actual problem.

The OP is doing what he usually does, you just have to look at his post history to see his agenda. And if you try to be a realist and point out that's it not actually every Dx9 game, he does his usual thing there too, if you disagree with him, and accuse you of been an AMD fanboy or defender.

I am surprised by Gregster accusing a mod of defending AMD. Armageus has done nothing of the sort, only changed the thread title so it doesn't become a flamebait thread. If the title of the thread was Nvidia break all Dx9 titles and a mod changed it to reflect the truth, rather than wild speculation you would have had no problem with it.
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Ask yourself why as the human race we have religions, when you get to the answer you'll know why some people behave in the way that they do, in life, not just in this forum.
 
Official statement from AMD

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Terry is head of the driver and software team at AMD, above you can read his response.
 
erazor51 said:
Official statement from AMD

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Terry is head of the driver and software team at AMD, above you can read his response.
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One wonders how long the starting arguments continue on beyond this point.

Edit, maybe the OP might like to update his original post? afterall he is just providing information on the subject, right?
 
erazor51 said:
Official statement from AMD

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Terry is head of the driver and software team at AMD, above you can read his response.
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HAHAHA, Look, Armageus was right. I hope all the people in this thread that attacked him have the decency to apologise to him.

EDIT: I guess that news has just ruined Muhammad's birthday.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Thanks for the warning I was thinking of getting a tablet, I think I'll buy anything other than a Windows version.
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Personally I'd still rather use Windows over other OS on tablet though I'd use 7 or 8 over 10 if I had a choice but you definitely have to go to town to stop Windows update interfering with normal tablet use - with the changes to the way metered connections are handled now you can't even use that to control updates and the bandwidth used by them properly. On one tablet it is still downloading 70% of available updates and the other 30-40% despite having metering set on the connection.
 
humbug said:
Yeah..... nice thought, the only problem with that is for you to get better priced nVidia cards AMD need to sell a lot more cards than they have in the past 5 years, if what everyone wants is a competitive AMD so they can buy nVidia cards for less then AMD are never going to be competitive and your never going to get better priced nVidia cards.

AMD with GPU's are now far too far behind nVidia to recover so we are now stuck with an nVidia monopoly.

Too many people with exclusive nVidia wants for too long, its now too late.



You know what, maybe AMD have just got to the stage now where they don't really give a ####, PC gaming has lost them a #### ton of money and they cannot afford to lose anymore to it, i wouldn't be surprised if from here on out all we get from AMD is smaller low to mid range GPU's like the current RX 540/550/560/570 and 580. high end cards like Vega are a bleed in AMD's finances and mindshare.
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I buy what's best, simple as. If AMD beat Nvidia or come decently close, I'll buy AMD. I wish AMD well for the sake of competition as said - but they're a business, not my friend.
 
viathinair said:
I buy what's best, simple as. If AMD beat Nvidia or come decently close, I'll buy AMD. I wish AMD well for the sake of competition as said - but they're a business, not my friend.
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Same here which is why right now i have a GTX 1070, your original statement tho...

viathinair said:
Haven't had an AMD card in years, and of the games mentioned I may replay Witcher 1, but I'm sure CDPR would sort the GOG version.

And while I wasn't planning to buy an AMD card next...yeah, it's not a good look for AMD. Hope they can sort it and more importantly finally bring a kick-ass product this year so I can at least have a better-priced Nvidia card.
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Reads like you just want AMD to be competitive so you can't get nVidia cards for less money, that is what you said, i do now accept that is perhaps not what you meant.

If AMD release a "Kick-ass product" why not buy it? you see how that reads?
 
humbug said:
Same here which is why right now i have a GTX 1070, your original statement tho...



Reads like you just want AMD to be competitive so you can't get nVidia cards for less money, that is what you said, i do now accept that is perhaps not what you meant.

If AMD release a "Kick-ass product" why not buy it? you see how that reads?
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If it beats Nvidia and I'm itching to upgrade then, I'll buy AMD. But there are times when I'm following the market but not looking to upgrade for 6-12 months. If AMD beat Nvidia during such a period for me, I'll sit back and wait to see if there's a price war...which Nvidia are in a much better position to win, hence my comment. Yeah, I could've worded it better.
 
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