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Jonners

Jonners

Jonners

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Hi

I know there are many clauses and what have you within employment contracts, but really when it comes to part time retail work, can they really frown upon employees working second jobs (within a totally different industry)? I have known of others past & present working a 2nd job however.

It's just I haven't spoken to the line manager *yet* about an 'intention to offer' email I received for job 2. But is there any reason why I should? As I am only going to do some ad-hoc work to try and make ends meet.

Do I say something tomorrow or ever? Or await my clearance certificate to land in employer 2's hands, and more importantly my DBS certificate? Before giving anything a mention, I only have a start date of 15 January and no firm information (time & date) about my first shift.

Thanks.
 
There is no reason to inform your current work place. Providing that hours don't clash, and you have a minimum of 11 hour gap between both jobs you're fine.

I too have 2 jobs. Been doing it since 2006, I have not informed HR/managers etc at both jobs. Don't need to and won't ever give them that information.
 
Could be breach of your current contract if you do this (check carefully) - you might well have agreed to get their permission when you signed it so Sho's reply isn't necessarily correct.

If it isn't anything that is going to conflict with your main job (assuming you won't need to travel, work the occasional weekend or late night etc..) and it is a completely separate business then I don't see why not - it would be a bit weird though in a lot of cases for someone to want to get some random low pay retail job.

I mean if you've got free time that you're not going to use for leisure purposes then in a lot of cases it would be better to use that to do more work for your current employer - even if you don't get overtime think about some promotion or better paid job you want in the current firms and see if you can work on some additional project etc.. in order to get that job/promotion.. that sort of thing can pay off way more than some **** retail job in your spare time.

(seriously, people often don't bother to push for promotions/career changes etc.. e-mailing a manager and expressing an interest in their team's work + a willingness to do some work for them in your spare time in addition to your current job is almost a no brainer for them to accept + they get to see what you can do/you get to prove yourself in the actual role)



The only times I've come across this sort of thing are people who serve in the reserves - HR invariably will give them written assurances that the clause doesn't apply to that/give them permission etc.. and one guy on a grad scheme who wanted to carry on with his weekend club promoter gig that he'd started at uni...
 
I work retail and have a 2nd job,they know about the 2nd job as it came into a conversation about me doing overtime during busy periods,i told them i cant as my 2nd job would be affected and they have been fine,this has been 13 months now and all is fine and never got mentioned,i don't get paid from my 2nd job (i am a caretaker of a shop and get a free flat for the time i put in) so it hasn't affected my money.
 
The only thing is, job 1 does have a tendency to change scheduled hours *with notice*

However job 2 does state in it's terms during offer, if I put my availability forward 4 consecutive times and then cancel a shift, I will be removed from their staffing list. And I must do at least 1 shift during any 4 week period or I will also no longer be eligible to work for said company.

I can attempt to cover my bases with job 1, that if I do forward my availability to job 2, could the schedule remain the same? However job 1, the peak periods are a grey area as I work 6 day weeks *most are/or are all full days unless I can request an early finish a couple of days or even just to do 5 days* if not this may make me unavailable for job 2.

But as job 1 is out of peak, any overtime can be very little or none.
 
I am contracted in job 1 but don't and won't have a contract in job 2 unless they make me permanent. (I'd only accept any offer from job 2 if it was at least matching contract of my current job as it is closer to home and cuts down on any travel costs).

Yes this is a working to live situation, as I only have a 24 hour contract in a retail environment, and as we all know overtime is not guaranteed.
 
Jonners said:
Spook187 said:
yup, some even do three or four jobs to stay afloat these days, great bloody Britain :(
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Blimey I know, and have heard, but 2 would be enough :)
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It is kind of meaningless though/doesn't mean they're working any more hours, other people working one job might well work the same number of hours. As mentioned before it is probably more efficient to put in extra effort with a single employer anyway if possible.
 
Schizo said:
I work retail and have a 2nd job,they know about the 2nd job as it came into a conversation about me doing overtime during busy periods,i told them i cant as my 2nd job would be affected and they have been fine,this has been 13 months now and all is fine and never got mentioned,i don't get paid from my 2nd job (i am a caretaker of a shop and get a free flat for the time i put in) so it hasn't affected my money.
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For me there is a certain amount of contractual obligation regarding overtime (and making myself available) - so there are limits to a second job before it would cause problems with my first.

Not sure on the legality but pretty sure my contract states I have to make them aware if I've additional employment.
 
Bassmansam said:
You would have to have made some terrible life choices if you have to work 2 or more jobs unless both equated to around 40 hours.
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Well all I'm trying to do is bump up my working week to 40 hours between two jobs, surely that's not so bad then...?
 
Rroff said:
For me there is a certain amount of contractual obligation regarding overtime (and making myself available) - so there are limits to a second job before it would cause problems with my first.

Not sure on the legality but pretty sure my contract states I have to make them aware if I've additional employment.
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How soon should I have let them know if ever needed be? Considering I have not actually worked or been offered a day *yet* from job 2. Due to awaiting the DBS check, but things seem to be getting a move on now.

Maybe it's best to speak openly tomorrow? Things were moving at a snails pace, but it appears not to be so now.
 
Jonners said:
How soon should I have let them know if ever needed be? Considering I have not actually worked or been offered a day *yet* from job 2. Due to awaiting the DBS check, but things seem to be getting a move on now.

Maybe it's best to speak openly tomorrow? Things were moving at a snails pace, but it appears not to be so now.
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I have no idea if there is any requirement I just know its in my contract.

Most companies probably aren't too bothered as to exactly when you tell them if you do tell them unless there is any impact on your ability to do your job such as times unavailable when you'd normally do overtime.
 
Well bearing in mind I haven't even done a shift at the other place, and then I tell employer 1 tomorrow, and they take an instant dislike to the idea. Contractually I can't actually land myself in any trouble can I?

For job 1 some form of an availability change during peak periods may need assessing (run up to Christmas). How often can I change my availability if I'm given the go ahead? A friend of mine seems to reckon every 12 months, as I am a long term staff member.
 
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