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Nvidia Instructs Retailers To Stop Selling To Miners & Sell To Gamers Instead

I had to try and purchase 6 cards this week for a build. In fairness, can only say fair play to NVIDIA for doing this. However, I do think it is in part due to production ramping down on certain SKU.

sidthesexist said:
Retailers may be playing a part in this, but so are the card manufacturers. On one of Gamers Nexus recent vids Steve stated that some manufacturers were delivering bulk shipments of cards straight to big mining farms bypassing the retailers. Meaning less cards going into the supply chain for gamers?
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Yep, you can bet this is happening, too.
 
I'd like to know how many thousands of GPU's Nvidia & AMD take off the production lines for their own mining activities.

You can bet they're at it, free money for them.
 
The fear must surely be that this will cause a contraction of the PC component market, if consumers aren't able to build a fair priced system then only the enthusiast/niche market will remain and every one else will go where it's easier and cheaper - consoles. That won't only effect GPU manufacturers but everyone else too. If and when BC crashes there'll be a surplus of GPU's on the scond hand market leading to a potential upsurge in PC gamers but no profits to Nvidia or AMD as there'll be less incentive to buy new. The other worrying thought is what impact this might have on game development and whether this makes the PC less viable as a platform to invest in.
 
pete910 said:
yeah am sure they did :rolleyes:

" Stop selling to paying customers..."
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Come on its not hard to work out why it's in nvidia's interests (and AMD's) to curtail miners buying cards.....

If mining moves or or collapses are miners still going to buy cards..... Err no

And if mining has meant that some people have turned away from or discounted PC gaming due to the expense and the market is flooded with second hand gpu's at cheap prices what does that mean for the prospects of selling new cards?

Its in a manufactures best interests (especially in the long term) to avoid short term buying binges like what happening in the current GPU market.....

Selling loads of your product in the here and now is no good if it damages your consumer base in the long term
 
If you order direct from evga for example( which is often cheaper than buying in store) limit the amount of cards you can purchase per household, I'm also sure they are in the business of making money..
 
bru said:
What's the chances that if this had been a story that AMD had suggested this it would be all sweetness and light.;):p;)
But of course because it's NVIDIA it's a horrid idea.
Myself I applaud any company that is willing to even suggest supplying the cards for what they are actually meant for.
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AMD did try it with that crappy bundle and voucher dealio when the 64 was released which was supposed to deter miners.
 
hyperseven said:
AMD did try it with that crappy bundle and voucher dealio when the 64 was released which was supposed to deter miners.
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To me, that was just a way for them to sell more stuff and make more money. It was totally irrelevant for those who just wanted a GPU and didn't want games or a whole system upgrade.
 
Really annoys me due to the fact that it's pushing up the prices of used GPUs too, even ones that are useless for mining... I think I was lucky to find a 780 ti for £100 the other day and I can't find any now for less than £150 as I was toying with the idea of adding another...
 
hyperseven said:
I am sure at the time their PR spin was about miners. I'll have a Google.
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I'm sure it was, but it was BS. "We'll make sure gamers get the cards by hanging on a few hundred quids worth of games and motherboards/CPUs that you don't want". No use to me at all, especially as it was only reference and water coolers.
 
britain4 said:
Really annoys me due to the fact that it's pushing up the prices of used GPUs too, even ones that are useless for mining... I think I was lucky to find a 780 ti for £100 the other day and I can't find any now for less than £150 as I was toying with the idea of adding another...
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One high street electronics retailer on their site is listing an old secondhand 280x for around £280 or so Iirc? Admittedly they also have a 750Ti New for £50
 
People posting on facebook with dozens of 1080tis etc saying they have a contact with UK wholesalers, so many not even reaching shops in the first place if its true.
 
Hedge said:
If a miner buys 6 cards then he/she's given Nvidia more money in one transaction than a loyal gamer like myself would have given them in 12-18 years. (assuming I buy a card every 2-3 years and never use amd)

It all sounds like a nice idea but people find ways and means. Domestic scale mining will just see people ordering two cards from ten different retailers or using multiple accounts and addresses. Obviously for places buying hundreds of cards this would less likely but retailers would probably ignore the rules if someone was buying pallets of cards in an instant.
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If talking in pure card sales then yeah sure. But PC gaming is a pretty big market which Nvidia are heavily invested in. It's definitely going to have an impact on them when the majority of gamers are priced out of new cards.

For example, how is VR going to progress when the masses don't have access to the hardware?
 
sidthesexist said:
One high street electronics retailer on their site is listing an old secondhand 280x for around £280 or so Iirc? Admittedly they also have a 750Ti New for £50
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I think the same high street electronics retailer is now selling 780 ti’s for £165 when they were going for £155 a couple of weeks back... on the one hand I’m glad I bought mine when I did but on the other I wish I’d picked up a couple...

2 780 ti’s at £100 each would have wiped the floor with a £200 1060... of course you have SLI issues and used card problems to deal with but that’s all part of the fun...

Never mind I’m just rambling to myself lol
 
Caracus2k said:
Come on its not hard to work out why it's in nvidia's interests (and AMD's) to curtail miners buying cards.....

If mining moves or or collapses are miners still going to buy cards..... Err no

And if mining has meant that some people have turned away from or discounted PC gaming due to the expense and the market is flooded with second hand gpu's at cheap prices what does that mean for the prospects of selling new cards?

Its in a manufactures best interests (especially in the long term) to avoid short term buying binges like what happening in the current GPU market.....

Selling loads of your product in the here and now is no good if it damages your consumer base in the long term
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You are deluding yourself if you think Nvidia/AMD cares who hands them money!

At the end of the day they have still sold the cards, what they will be used for is irrelevant

I see what you are getting at regards if the "bubble bursts" but lets be honest, It's become to big + to many sorts of coin to mine now.
Even if it did bust until AMD/NVidia release another tier of card the existing ones will remain relevant whether or no miners want them or not.
 
bru said:
Silly question, have NVIDIAS website direct sale prices changed since launch?
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Generally no. I don't monitor them frequently but the only thing I've noticed rise was the TX, but I think that was when the TXP came out. I've not seen rises in 1070, TI's 1080 and Ti's.
 
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