The VW UP Gti - What do we all think?

MagicBoy said:
It's also more to go wrong. My 12 year old Fabia vRS is still on the original front brake pads and discs. The rears - I've needed discs and pads replacing due to corrosion, and a caliper replacing at £LOL as it's a model special part.
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That's just poor VAG reliability. My 12 year old Ignis Sport has rear discs on a 930kg car and they still work perfectly as does the handbrake. Not to mention the stopping power is great.

carrot1401 said:
Good point.

It's 113hp.

It's not a hot hatch.
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Aren't you a clever boy. The UP! GTi is a hot version of the UP! which last time I checked is a hatchback.
 
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Putting the same engine you can get in a normal polo into it doesn't make it hot by any stretch of the imagination. Hot hatch to me is abarth 595's, Peugeot 208 GTi's, Fiesta ST's, not a city car with a bit more power and slightly bigger wheels. Drums on any of them would be a terrible idea, but on this to keep costs down I'm all for.

That's the nice thing about it; it's not going for silly records, it's going for bundles of fun, which with that amount of power and weight on UK roads is hopefully the sweet spot. Sure, could push it more towards 130hp if you want, but you won't be racing the actual hot hatch crew anytime soon...
 
adam cool dude said:
That's just poor VAG reliability. My 12 year old Ignis Sport has rear discs on a 930kg car and they still work perfectly as does the handbrake. Not to mention the stopping power is great.
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:rolleyes::p

You don't seem to have a good thing to say about any VW product, so why not just stay away from the thread?
 
carrot1401 said:
That's the nice thing about it; it's not going for silly records, it's going for bundles of fun, which with that amount of power and weight on UK roads is hopefully the sweet spot. Sure, could push it more towards 130hp if you want, but you won't be racing the actual hot hatch crew anytime soon...
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A hot hatch isn't purely about power. Going by your standard anything under 300bhp isn't a hot hatch. Heck a Fiesta ST is slow in reality. It won't even tip 140mph and that is a typical modern day hot hatch ;).

MagicBoy said:
:rolleyes::p

You don't seem to have a good thing to say about any VW product, so why not just stay away from the thread?
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It was just a response to your sweeping statement about rear disc brakes.
 
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adam cool dude said:
I am sure VW could have found something in their parts bin to give it discs all around. I am actually surprised in 2018 you can still buy drum brakes new!
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The rear disc brakes from the Lupo GTi fit straight on according to a couple of YouTube videos I have seen.
 
adam cool dude said:
A hot hatch isn't purely about power. Going by your standard anything under 300bhp isn't a hot hatch. Heck a Fiesta ST is slow in reality. It won't even tip 140mph and that is a typical modern day hot hatch ;).
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I agree with power not being everything, but it's a 1 litre turbo with no bucket seats and care for performance. If you want hot hatch, you go Polo GTi. The mk1 Golf was hot hatch back in it's day, and it's roughly same figures as the original Golf, but in todays world, well, I'll have to agree to disagree. Still not got an order number for mine :(
 
Jamesyboyjim said:
As per title! I've been looking at reviews online of these and I think they're great! :D 113bhp in a tiny car that weighs around 900kg is going to feel quite nippy. I think the price is what makes this car great, only around 13k new.
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Says 1070kg here https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/vw-up-gti-2018-review/

Performance: 8.8sec 0-62mph, 122mph, 50.4mpg, 129g/km CO2
Weight / material: 1070kg/steel
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Strange VW lists it at 926kg but multi different reviews list it at 1070kg :confused:
 
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I like it, it takes things back to basics, it’s not massively complicated, doesn’t take itself too seriously and based on reviews, should be quite the fun little car to drive.
 
I think I quite like the UP GTi, though I'd not buy anything so small these days. I used to have a Citroen AX GT many years ago, with a mighty 85bhp under the bonnet. Even that was light and fast enough that it would go much, much faster than necessary around a sharp corner in the dry, assuming you didn't have more than two people sitting in it.
 
chaparral said:
Says 1070kg here https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/vw-up-gti-2018-review/

Strange VW lists it at 926kg but multi different reviews list it at 1070kg :confused:
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I don't know exactly numbers but I think it is the 3 door that comes in at just under a tonne.

Edit: Some figures only include car while other include driver, fuel and some luggage. It's all very confusing! I'll rarely have more than 2 people in the car so looking forward to chucking it about. Reminds me of my first car, suzuki Alto 1.1l!
 
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As you obviously can't be bothered to check the website :
"Both the unladen weight and payload include 90% tank, the driver (68kg) and luggage (7kg) in line with the EU directive 95/48. Unladen weight shown refers to 3-door models. The unladen weight of 5-door models will increase by 25kg."

If you've got an issue with that, take it up with your MEP!
 
adam cool dude said:
How many cars have them on the front in the past 25 years? I have fond memories of being a passenger in a Citroen AX with drums all around ploughing into a roundabout because it was raining!
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I have to question your memory since the AX was never fitted with drum brakes on the front, though it was fitted with a particularly poor set of disk brakes.

adam cool dude said:
They make a good handbrake but overheat very quickly and are terrible in wet weather which is not something you want in a hot hatch.
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They only overheat quickly if they have to do a lot of work, but on the back of a small city car they are barely doing anything. Adding disks to the rear of an UP won't do a thing for the braking performance.

Why would you think that drums are crap in bad weather? If anything they are better since the friction surfaces/material are protected from water spray, so don't suffer from the lag that disk brakes can.
 
adam cool dude said:
That's just poor VAG reliability. My 12 year old Ignis Sport has rear discs on a 930kg car and they still work perfectly as does the handbrake. Not to mention the stopping power is great.
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Wow 12 years old that's an ancient car. No VAG cars on the road on a 05/55 plate
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MagicBoy said:
Post #28 FTW...
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VW quote weights with the driver, nearly a full tank of fuel and a bit of luggage. So 1070kg it is. Take the driver out an it's sub 1000Kg.
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From VW website : Unladen weight includes 68kg driver, 7kg luggage & 90% fuel = 926kg 3 door (951kg 5 door)
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MagicBoy said:
As you obviously can't be bothered to check the website :
"Both the unladen weight and payload include 90% tank, the driver (68kg) and luggage (7kg) in line with the EU directive 95/48. Unladen weight shown refers to 3-door models. The unladen weight of 5-door models will increase by 25kg."

If you've got an issue with that, take it up with your MEP!
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Thanks, I was actually at work and not really able to check the information. I appreciate you letting me know though. 90% fuel tank is just an odd number.
 
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