What would you cool an 8700k with if you weren't going to overclock much?

Surprising that the H60 can't cope. I know it's one of the smaller AIOs and that a good tower cooler would outperform it but I would expect it to cool the 8700k adequately.

Perhaps with age it has just degraded to the point of not being useable. AIOs just don't last as long. I own the H100i v2 and, whilst I don't have buyer's remorse, in hindsight I would have chosen another tower cooler.

You can't go wrong with a Noctua NH-D15 but if you think the beige fans are too ugly then look at the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro or some other dual fan tower cooler.
 
I'm also surprised the H60 can't cope at stock. Reapply and if the same check bois settings. If nothing helps get a 120mm cheap Themis cooler. This cooler will tame the 8700k @ stock settings definitely. Hope you get it sorted.
 
I have the Cooler Master Hyper 212 on my 8700k @4.5ghz 1.20v it's a cracking air cooler for the money,it's on there as I'm moving it into a corsair 570x case.
 
I always use mid to upper level 140mm fan/s air coolers. Lower cost then any CLC, less chance of problems (only fan to wear out) and 140mm fanned coolers are almost always quieter than 120mm fanned coolers at same cooling level.
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
Bit boring but whats a good cooler for a rig thats on 24/7 im using a corsair hydro h60 that i used to run a 3770k on, its errr a bit hot with the 8700k.
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Depends really on how that cooler is configured. Have you got it set as an INTAKE to the system, cus if you haven't that alone could knock 10 degrees of the temperature. Changing the fan for an ML PRO and re-writing the fan profile under LINK could change the system a little bit too. Failing that then I would get a larger radiator. An H100 or something similar.
 
Pocah said:
Depends really on how that cooler is configured. Have you got it set as an INTAKE to the system, cus if you haven't that alone could knock 10 degrees of the temperature. Changing the fan for an ML PRO and re-writing the fan profile under LINK could change the system a little bit too. Failing that then I would get a larger radiator. An H100 or something similar.
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Using a CLC as intake in a system that uses air cooling on everything but what CLC is on means everything but what CLC is mounted on runs hotter. So yeah, if want your case to be an oven for all the air cooled components thus making them all run hotter so your CLC cooled component is a few degrees cooler then by all means use radiator as intake. :rolleyes:
 
doyll said:
Using a CLC as intake in a system that uses air cooling on everything but what CLC is on means everything but what CLC is mounted on runs hotter. So yeah, if want your case to be an oven for all the air cooled components thus making them all run hotter so your CLC cooled component is a few degrees cooler then by all means use radiator as intake. :rolleyes:
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A graphics card will turn a case into an oven anyway. After an hour of gaming the graphics card will start to run hot and dump it's heat into the case. If you have a top mounted exhaust radiator then guess where all that heat is going to pass through. Your radiator!

It doesn't matter where you put a radiator. On the front as intake means it might mean the starting temperature is 2°C higher, as an exhaust then it will not obstruct cool air comngc in up until the point that the temperature of the graphics card starts to saturate the radiator and start cooking the processor.

It's just not worth getting into a tizz over where to put the radiator in a CLC system. With hindsight I wouldn't have bothered with one for a CPU anyway. The number 1 component you need to keep cool is the graphics card.
 
TallPaul1878 said:
A graphics card will turn a case into an oven anyway. After an hour of gaming the graphics card will start to run hot and dump it's heat into the case. If you have a top mounted exhaust radiator then guess where all that heat is going to pass through. Your radiator!

It doesn't matter where you put a radiator. On the front as intake means it might mean the starting temperature is 2°C higher, as an exhaust then it will not obstruct cool air comngc in up until the point that the temperature of the graphics card starts to saturate the radiator and start cooking the processor.

It's just not worth getting into a tizz over where to put the radiator in a CLC system. With hindsight I wouldn't have bothered with one for a CPU anyway. The number 1 component you need to keep cool is the graphics card.
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Maybe your cases but not any of mine or anyone who sets up their case to flow air properly. My case airflow into CPU and GPU coolers is normally only 2-3c above room ambient and never more than 3-5c above room ambient even with both CPU and GPU simultaneously running stress tests ,, be it 10 minutes of 10 hours the airflow is always less than 5c warmer than room .. but then all of my systems have case airflow tuned to components used.

It definitely matters where you put a radiator, what fans are used, what speeds they run, etc.

You are the only one in a tizz. :p I do agree, putting a CLC on CPU .. and that GPU cooler is the problem child, not a decent tower CPU cooler .. but it's not just GPU that needs cool airlfow to keep cool, it's all components in the case. :p
 
doyll said:
Maybe your cases but not any of mine or anyone who sets up their case to flow air properly. My case airflow into CPU and GPU coolers is normally only 2-3c above room ambient and never more than 3-5c above room ambient even with both CPU and GPU simultaneously running stress tests ,, be it 10 minutes of 10 hours the airflow is always less than 5c warmer than room .. but then all of my systems have case airflow tuned to components used.

It definitely matters where you put a radiator, what fans are used, what speeds they run, etc.

You are the only one in a tizz. :p I do agree, putting a CLC on CPU .. and that GPU cooler is the problem child, not a decent tower CPU cooler .. but it's not just GPU that needs cool airlfow to keep cool, it's all components in the case. :p
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I'm not in a tizz. Seeing as I install ventilation systems and heat exchangers for a living I think I've got just a bit of a clue how air moves around and gets warmed up and cooled down ;););)

For the record I'm using a Fractal Meshify C. So my AIO is actually top mounted exhaust due to the narrow compact design of the case. I have both front fan bays populated with intake fans and my graphics card is a hybrid that I specifically wanted to isolate it from the rest of the components. That being a 120mm radiator is situated at the rear exhaust position.

What you said about case choice is actually quite correct. If you choose something like the NZXT S340 with it's solid front panel and pitiful "intake" slots you will be choking off the amount of air that can be put into the case.

It's the same with a steamy bathroom. You might have the fan running but the bathroom stays full of hot damp air. That's because the fan can only move X amount of litres of air per second. On top of that, by having all of the windows and doors shut, you are not replacing the air with clean cool air. So the hot air just swirls around the room effectively going nowhere.

So, whilst radiator placement does matter to some extent, the choice of the other components have a far bigger impact.

Actually I recommend you take a look on YouTube at the subject of radiator placement. You might be surprised at the results. I admit I was surprised too.
 
Personally run my AIO were they will either fit or look pretty haha. My choice of unit allows Temp sensor , long as water remains 32-4c max when running prime then I'm happy .
But since Pascal is a sensitive chap to temps , I tend to have a ton of intake fans supplying the GPU cool air . Not fussed on hot the air is passing through the rad, long as water temp and CPU temp are fine . Couldn't care about if it could be cooler, just as long as it's within a good range :D
But half the fun is experimenting ! Go nuts and play :) having been friends with Alphacool for a while my ideas of pcs and such have been brought crashing down to reality
 
doyll said:
Using a CLC as intake in a system that uses air cooling on everything but what CLC is on means everything but what CLC is mounted on runs hotter. So yeah, if want your case to be an oven for all the air cooled components thus making them all run hotter so your CLC cooled component is a few degrees cooler then by all means use radiator as intake. :rolleyes:
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Yes, you are right, it's swings and roundabouts. If you have it as an exhaust then the CPU will be hotter, if you have it as an intake then everything else will be hotter. Think is though that your CPU generates less heat than your GPU so generally it is better to have the CPU cooler as an intake. But it all comes down to volume of air. The more air you have going through the radiator the lower it's temperature of that air ( diminishing returns of course, because it won't go lower than ambient! ) and the less effect it has on the rest of the system.
 
Pocah said:
Yes, you are right, it's swings and roundabouts. If you have it as an exhaust then the CPU will be hotter, if you have it as an intake then everything else will be hotter. Think is though that your CPU generates less heat than your GPU so generally it is better to have the CPU cooler as an intake. But it all comes down to volume of air. The more air you have going through the radiator the lower it's temperature of that air ( diminishing returns of course, because it won't go lower than ambient! ) and the less effect it has on the rest of the system.
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Or is it better to have the CPU run a couple of degrees warmer so the GPU gets cooler air and runs cooler?

There is also the diminishing return of noise level .. hopefully below the level where ears start to bleed. :D

Honestly, a decent case with good venting and fans make it rather easy to have good cool airflow to both GPU and CLC coolers / radiators.

But if I had to put a CLC in any of my systems I would choose to put it on a high wattage GPU rather than on CPU. :p
 
doyll said:
Or is it better to have the CPU run a couple of degrees warmer so the GPU gets cooler air and runs cooler?

There is also the diminishing return of noise level .. hopefully below the level where ears start to bleed. :D

Honestly, a decent case with good venting and fans make it rather easy to have good cool airflow to both GPU and CLC coolers / radiators.

But if I had to put a CLC in any of my systems I would choose to put it on a high wattage GPU rather than on CPU. :p
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depends on GPU, but pascal and vega- very sensitive to heat because of their Boost system works - cooler the better performance
 
orbitalwalsh said:
depends on GPU, but pascal and vega- very sensitive to heat because of their Boost system works - cooler the better performance
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I hadn't really thought about that. Same temp range issues could be problematic with AMD CPUs. But as long as CPU and GPU cooler / radiator are getting air within 2-3c of room ambient everything is cool, pun intended. And as long as case has decent airflow design (enough intake/exhaust vent/airflow area with good case fans supplying air less than 3c warmer than room is not all that hard to do. Here is a basic tutorial for case airflow I wrote up a few years ago. Still applied to today's cases.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-i-put-my-temp-sensor.18564223/#post-26159770
 
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