Irrational tyre views?

Diagro said:
Not available for that size. Mps4 is though.
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Tbh, my opinion is the MPS4 is the best tyre available for joe public in the UK currently. With the MPS4S for those more capable drivers.

You can argue until the cows come home that people are fine on ditchfinders every day, and yes, they are, but the time they wont be fine is that one time you need them to perform in an emergency situation.

Its the same as a seatbelt. You dont need it 99% of the time, but when you do, it will save your life.
 
Yep, it's like with winter tyres in the snow. You'll be fine on normal ones, right up until it's not fine and your sliding off the road.
 
Entai said:
However, she has had them on for 3 years and almost 45,000 miles, they all still have legal tread depth left, (approx 2 to 2.5 mm) passed recent MOT, and are in good condition, no bulges, no nicks, no marks, cuts etc.

She is still alive
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She's also probably not used her ABS, had her DSC kick in, had her airbags inflate, had the crumple zones compress or had the side impact protection bars deflect an impact. She's also probably not been prevented from being flung out of a window by her seatbelt either nor has she had to claim on her insurance - does that mean all of those things are unnecessary as well?

Everything is fine when things are normal but the point in these safety features - of which tyres are a crucial example - is that in the event of things going wrong you have the best possible chance of being ok.

It's honestly worrying that we share the same roads as people who think having 4 completely different budget tyres on a car is perfectly fine on the basis that they didn't crash before so it's all good.

There is absolutely no need to fit Michelin Pilot Super Sport's to everything on the road but a decent perform well rated premium brand tyre for an everyday car is not expensive and most cars will go years between needing tyres.
 
BinnsY said:
Absolutely this.
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More importantly, it may safe the life of someone else.

Could you live with yourself for hitting a kid who runs out infront of your car because your ditchfinders couldn't slow the car down quick enough for the sake of saving £20 quid a corner? Premium tyres show time and time again, they have better braking performance by not insignificant margins in dry, damp and wet conditions.

Given how often your average driver changes tyres, cheaping out is just false economy.
 
Per mile tyres are probably one of the cheapest wear and tear/consumable components no? Say £600 for a set and a typical tyre wears down in maybe 25-30k miles? 2p per mile for 4 tyres
You wouldn't buy crap brakes why get crap tyres?
 
Shivy011 said:
Per mile tyres are probably one of the cheapest wear and tear/consumable components no? Say £600 for a set and a typical tyre wears down in maybe 25-30k miles? 2p per mile for 4 tyres
You wouldn't buy crap brakes why get crap tyres?
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Lets be honest, those buying crap tyres will either never change brakes, discs or pads, unless its an mot fail, and even then they will go for the cheapest option possible. Im not saying your daily driver needs RS29s on but some pads on the market are not much better than strapping a block of mdf in place as a replacement ....
 
I've had budgets and Ive had premium tyres. There is a MASSIVE difference in stopping and driving.

Though some mid range tyres are hit and miss.
 
The brands that some garages pass off as "mid range" I find amazing. They are basically what people here refer to as ditchfinders.
Hence they likely get fitted to millions of cars in the UK. They are not great, but they do work. If they were not safe they would not be sold.
That said, I have branded on all our cars, and would not use anything else on my Mrs's car certainly.
Sometimes small margins may save you, but the likelihood is that you would be just fine.

However, do you really want anyone you love taking the risk?
 
Does she wear different, supermarket branded shoes?

I don't understand why people don't use decent tyres. We just replaced 2 of my wife's Michelin Latitude Tours and it came to $500 fitted. They had been on since 2014, had done over 60k miles and still had life left in them for another months (one got a non-repairable puncture so replaced both). $500 for 2.5years of use seems like a bargain to me.

They're the one thing on a car that you shouldn't skimp on.
 
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xs2man said:
Yep. The having a lot bit is the fault I would find. Rather than having A (as in one set of) set of Michelin, or something else that lasts longer than a weekend in the Lake District.
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by having a lot i mean 4 cars in the household have them and have had them for the past 2 years or so ive gone through a set of fronts pretty quickly but they covered 15k of hard driving including some autobahn and ring laps , parents cars have been solid with them

rears still have plenty left on mine
 
marcus_667 said:
by having a lot i mean 4 cars in the household have them and have had them for the past 2 years or so ive gone through a set of fronts pretty quickly but they covered 15k of hard driving including some autobahn and ring laps , parents cars have been solid with them

rears still have plenty left on mine
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15k is probably the most I've ever heard anyone get out of them. Never managed that myself, on front or rear. And I'm not exactly a hard driver. I still had 4mm left, after 44k, on my Goodyears on the 5 series.
 
xs2man said:
15k is probably the most I've ever heard anyone get out of them. Never managed that myself, on front or rear. And I'm not exactly a hard driver. I still had 4mm left, after 44k, on my Goodyears on the 5 series.
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my fronts were absolutely knackered cords on inner , for cost they are really decent

the mothers fronts are starting to wear on inside currently been on her mk2 fabia vrs since summer 2015 and 14k ish
 
I've worked in the motor trade for 10 years, 95% of people want the absolute cheapest possible, and usually look/sound very insulted that you tell them they even need tyres in the first place.

I always fit the best I can to my cars. Currently running Michelin PS4 tyres which came in uner £400 for the set, and have done 30k with plenty of life left still. A set of £200 budgets would have struggled to cover 10k I'd imagine, plus they would never have the amazing wet grip the Michelins offer.
 
andy_mk3 said:
I've worked in the motor trade for 10 years, 95% of people want the absolute cheapest possible, and usually look/sound very insulted that you tell them they even need tyres in the first place.

I always fit the best I can to my cars. Currently running Michelin PS4 tyres which came in uner £400 for the set, and have done 30k with plenty of life left still. A set of £200 budgets would have struggled to cover 10k I'd imagine, plus they would never have the amazing wet grip the Michelins offer.
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exactly this, sure they seem expensive initially but it'd be interesting to see what the lifetime cost really is in comparison

however even if it is more economical to run budgets, how much money are you willing to spend on your safety, on your family's safety?
 
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