The: When Travelling By Taxi - Discussion

Tipping is just a nice gesture, and for people like delivery personnel or taxi drivers it's just a perk of the job. I'm not sure why people want to view it as in any way more complicated than that.
 
Tipping is just a nice gesture, and for people like delivery personnel or taxi drivers it's just a perk of the job. I'm not sure why people want to view it as in any way more complicated than that.

Here in Stoke our taxi fares are quite cheap eg On Friday four of us got in a taxi and traveled at least 5 miles for £7 so it doesn't hurt to give another quid.
I was in Fleet last year and it cost £11 to go exactly 2 miles and he didn't get a tip.
 
Well, I didn’t stay out for long.
In my post, which you quoted, I said that the only REAL taxis in London are Black Cabs, but having been a Black Cab driver, I WOULD say that, wouldn’t I?
I did say that the others, (minicabs), are a poor imitation, usually driven by immigrant wannabes, what I meant was that the drivers were wannabe real taxi drivers but weren’t at the moment, as they weren’t driving Black Cabs.
I wasn’t taking a swipe at immigrants per se, indeed, with the amount of French blood in my veins, I count myself as descending from immigrant stock, and I’m proud of it.
According to Business Insider, in July 2017, there were a total of 24618 licenced Black Cab drivers in London, both green badge, (inner London), and yellow badge, (suburban London), of these, 16648 were White British, 277 were White Irish, and 603 were White Other.
At the same time, there were 117,857 Private Hire drivers, both minicab and Uber, of these, 7097 were White British, 180 were White Irish, and 13251 were White Other.
It’s a reasonable supposition that a lot of those PH drivers, both indigenous and immigrant, would have preferred to have been Black Cab drivers, so for that reason alone, I described them as wannabes.

Why was it pertinent to your point, that mini cabs are essentially inferior, that they are driven by immigrants? Personally I prefer to use Addison Lee to black cabs because I don't have to put up with the terrible suspension and there is much less chance of a pointless and opinionated rant from the front seat.
 
Why was it pertinent to your point, that mini cabs are essentially inferior, that they are driven by immigrants? Personally I prefer to use Addison Lee to black cabs because I don't have to put up with the terrible suspension and there is much less chance of a pointless and opinionated rant from the front seat.

This is becoming a tad tiresome now, not just for me having to repetitively explain myself, but for any passer-by who happens to read it.
The fact that minicabs in London are often driven by immigrants is undeniable, it’s one of the lower level entry jobs that are open to anyone, ergo immigrants flock to fill the vacancies.
It DOESN’T make immigrants bad people, or undesirable, it’s just a fact of life, immigrants are NOT essentially inferior, not in the slightest, but in comparison to Black Cabs, minicabs ARE inferior, IMO.
It isn’t easy to come up with an analogy that doesn’t make it look like Black Cab drivers have on over inflated view of themselves, e.g. B.C. drivers are the Brigade of Guards, while minicab drivers are the Catering Corps, i.e. they’re both soldiering units, but one is generally thought of as more militaristic than the other.
The main reason why I, and many B.C. drivers view minicabs as lower down the scale, was the hoops that B.C. drivers had, and have to jump through to prove they were worthy of that piece of green tin that hangs around their necks, compared to what a minicab driver does to get a P.H. Licence.
I did The Knowledge in virtually prehistoric times, a time of full employment, when you could walk out of a job on Monday, and start a new one on Tuesday, friends and relations thought that I was nuts, riding a moped around London, in rain, sun, hot weather, snowy weather, learning where obscure buildings were, The Western Eye Hospital, the Burmese Embassy, The G.M.C., The Mandeville Hotel, etc. etc., I did it in 19 months, while working for The Post Office, when the average was 17 months, nowadays the guys doing it are looking at around 4 years.
To gain a P.H. Licence, all you need is a drivers licence and a relatively non existent criminal record, you don’t even have to to be able to speak English, although this was considered, but rejected as discriminatory.
That’s the abridged version of why we feel that we’re superior, but of course, it’s up to John Q. Public he pays his money, and takes his choice, so I hope that you enjoy Addison Pee, (as we call them).
FWIW, I became a Black Cab driver for two reasons, naturally because I knew that if I did the job right, I’d earn a nice few quid, but far and away above all, was because I could then go to work WHEN I wanted to, and come home WHEN I wanted to.
 
Good for you.

Addison Pee. That is brilliant.

I use black cabs, I just find they are over-priced and the arrogance associated with the knowledge a bit misplaced in this day and age. I use uber, black cabs and addison lee. For airports I used the same mini cab company with excellent service for about 10 years and a merger turned them to rubbish overnight. I've used AL since and the impersonal but polite service suits me. They picked me up from Heathrow this morning at 5.30 and took me home in a nice merc with no chat and wifi and phone charging for at least a third less than a black cab and didn't gob off about it not be a long enough journey or try to engage me about Brexit or football or worse. Ultimately black cab drivers will cease to exist in the not so distant future, but I'm glad for you that you got in early enough to have a good career (while the rest of my post may sound acerbic that last part was genuine).
 
Worst cab I got was in Bucharest, they all ignore their meters and pull numbers out of nowhere. We got one cab somewhere and the bloke said something like 80Leu then the next one we got literally laughed at us and said you made that drivers day it should have been about 5.
 
Loads of places in the Middle East are like that too. In Bahrain they all cover the meter with bits of cardboard and stuff and try to make up the price. They are legally obliged to use it though if you point it out.
 
Yep rip-offs!

I actually also just remembered a cabby in Ibiza that decided it was acceptable to fly over a roundabout at 80MPH, i was absolutely pooing myself!
 
I usually sit in the front of a taxi trying to make small talk with the driver asking things like 'So how long are you working tonight?' and 'Bad weather huh?'.
 
I usually sit in the front of a taxi trying to make small talk with the driver asking things like 'So how long are you working tonight?' and 'Bad weather huh?'.

Absolutely no disrespect to you in the slightest Talasour, but that kind of thing would have had me thanking the good Lord that there was no front seat in any of the Black Cabs I ever drove, neither rented nor ones that I owned, plus I would turn the intercom switch off if the job in the back had diarrhoea of the mouth.
Contrary to popular opinion on taxi drivers, I rarely if ever initiated a conversation with the job.
 
Absolutely no disrespect to you in the slightest Talasour, but that kind of thing would have had me thanking the good Lord that there was no front seat in any of the Black Cabs I ever drove, neither rented nor ones that I owned, plus I would turn the intercom switch off if the job in the back had diarrhoea of the mouth.
Contrary to popular opinion on taxi drivers, I rarely if ever initiated a conversation with the job.

Yeah it's a two way street; depending on the taxi driver they might try to start the initial awkward conversation when I just want to sit in peace after work.

Drivers in the North East are just so chatty.
 
I had a funny thing with an Uber the other day. He dropped me off at home, it'd been a 30min drive and we'd chatted a little bit (not too much ;)). It was probably the best Uber experience I'd had recently. So I got out and he was like "Thank you sir, have a good evening. Five stars for you!".

All I could think of was that Black Mirror episode :p

(As I was travelling on business I did tip him £4-5 on a £14ish fare)
 
Loads of places in the Middle East are like that too. In Bahrain they all cover the meter with bits of cardboard and stuff and try to make up the price. They are legally obliged to use it though if you point it out.

Going against my better judgement, I got a city taxi instead of an Uber in Mexico City at about 4am on NYD. Driver asked for 250 pesos for a 8 minute drive, which is far more than it would normally cost, but as it was NYD I didn’t have a problem with it. Got out at the other end and “oh yeah, actually I meant 250 per person, so I need 500 now”. Told him to **** off, he caused a massive scene and threatened to call the police, I said he was welcome to, and he ended up waiting there for about 40 minutes, only to finally give up and drive off when he realised he wasn’t getting anything - he obviously didn’t call the police. Funny thing was, my Mexican girlfriend was going to pay him, and me, the naive tourist was the one who was refusing to :p
 
I had a funny thing with an Uber the other day. He dropped me off at home, it'd been a 30min drive and we'd chatted a little bit (not too much ;)). It was probably the best Uber experience I'd had recently. So I got out and he was like "Thank you sir, have a good evening. Five stars for you!".

All I could think of was that Black Mirror episode :p

(As I was travelling on business I did tip him £4-5 on a £14ish fare)

So what's the difference between a taxi and an Uber?

Update: We haven't got Uber in my area yet.
 
I once rather naively got a dodgy unlicensed cab in Rome and he got agro and upped the price at the end of the journey. Normally I quite enjoy a bit of a row in that sort of situation but I noticed that one of his thumbs was cleanly sliced off and thought better of it and gave him the cash!
 
So what's the difference between a taxi and an Uber?

Update: We haven't got Uber in my area yet.

Uber is all app-based and much more convenient. You get a GPS breakdown of where your driver is and known exactly where and when they are arriving.

The cost of a trip is pre-defined before you book too. So it's in their interest to complete the route as quickly as possible.
 
Uber is all app-based and much more convenient. You get a GPS breakdown of where your driver is and known exactly where and when they are arriving.

The cost of a trip is pre-defined before you book too. So it's in their interest to complete the route as quickly as possible.


I doubt it will come to my area due to it being so small but if I'm ever in the city center I'll give it a go.
 
Uber for business is really brilliant. They've built-in the main expenses platforms so I have a 'work' profile with my corporate card as default. All receipts get emailed to me and go straight into my expenses system. Even tipping works well. And it even has the map on the receipt so you can remember what the trip was...

Just have to be careful not to use the business profile when not, er, on business :p
 
Worst cab I got was in Bucharest, they all ignore their meters and pull numbers out of nowhere. We got one cab somewhere and the bloke said something like 80Leu then the next one we got literally laughed at us and said you made that drivers day it should have been about 5.


A few years ago, I read in a trade paper that a scam had been tumbled in Prague I think it was.
The meter ticked up on the revolutions of the rear wheels, and some shrewd Czech had switched the wheels on his cab to smaller ones, like the emergency ones that were used when you had a puncture on newer cars nowadays.
They were going round like nobody’s business, and the guy was making a fortune.
 
Cabs in Bangkok try it on with tourists as well. When I went years ago with friends I remember getting into cabs, then proceeding to have an argument with thme to turn the meter on. You'd get the usual "Oh it's bad traffic, no meter will be cheaper". It's so boring after a while. I think one time we actually got in and then out of about 3-4 cabs before we'd get anywhere :p

I hate going to countries that think they can rip tourists off, it really leaves a bad taste.
 
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