Annihilation (2018) - Trailer

I think it was the glass of water on the table that was mutating.

My take on it was that she might not have swapped with the bodysnatcher but had simply started mutating while in the shimmer (but I couldn't rule out a swap).

Again in my view the 'annihilation' was yet to happen. Once the pair had children then the shimmer would be forever in the human DNA and would keep spreading.

In the book the biologist was the only one immune to the mind control from the psychologist. This happened after she breathed in spores from a mushroom.
Just like other life in Area X the people who were in the teams were not immune to its effects.
 
I think it was the glass of water on the table that was mutating.

My take on it was that she might not have swapped with the bodysnatcher but had simply started mutating while in the shimmer (but I couldn't rule out a swap).

Again in my view the 'annihilation' was yet to happen. Once the pair had children then the shimmer would be forever in the human DNA and would keep spreading.

Book spoilers: The biologist's husband is dead before the biologist joins her expedition. However, she doesn't believe the husband that comes back is anything but a copy. She joins her expedition with some intent to find her real husband, but also because she is fascinated with nature, and is really quite a loner. The biologist that comes back is a copy. The real biologist stays in Area X and retraces her husband's footsteps. She doesn't find him, but there is a hint that he may have been transformed into a dolphin she sees in the first book, or maybe an owl that she lives with in the third book. The biologist resists being transformed for 30 years by hurting herself (the Area X infection heals her body instead of transforming her). Eventually she gets exhausted by her life in Area X, and allows herself to be transformed into some kind of giant sea/land going beast. Time flows faster in Area X, but later characters find the biologist's diary/last statement.

There is no real need to bring Area X back to the real world, as at the end of the second book, Area X expands catastrophically, and opens other areas on the Earth, one where the copy of the biologist is hiding. There is an implication that this happens because of the presence of the copy, and that the current expansion of Area X is not quite civilization ending, but could well be in the future. Area X is some kind of terraforming machinery or disease from a long dead race, but travelling through the doorway takes you to what may be a different planet (different stars). No one knows what happens to those that pass through the border rather than go though the doorway. They may get transformed, the may just disappear. The disease was released from the old lighthouse lens and infects the lighthouse keeper. It was done deliberately by a black-ops in plain sight project who don't realise what it will cause.

The only time the words annihilation are used is because that is the hypnotic keyword that allows the psychologist (who is also the Director of Southern Reach) to compel the expedition members to kill themselves. The psychologist tries to use it on the biologist after the psychologist is mortally wounded by throwing herself off the lighthouse, but by then the biologist is immune to hypnotic suggestion from breathing in the spores in the Crawler's writing in the tunnel. The crawler used to be the lighthouse keeper before he was infected and subsumed into the alien terraforming disease.
 
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Frankly I'm surprised that it got cinema release in the states.
For the simple reason that audiences generally want to be spoon fed nice easy coherent plots and action that gets resolved with a convenient set piece ending. No thinking required.

I liked it. Part of its charm was leaving more questions than answers. A space for my imagination to colour in, if you will.
The lack of hand holding is a bold move for movies, Sci fy movies especially, when everyone is accustomed to the likes of aliens and star trek.
Some people will say the hallmark of a **** film is an open script (call them plot holes if you want) but in a film like this that is what makes it interesting. Interstellar did something similar with its somewhat esoteric view of the human condition and emotion or soul transcending space, time and matter.
Be interested to see what the book(s) are like. I read the short story that Arrival was based on and I think the film adaptation was much better evolved. The short story was a little mundane, ultimately.

Thumbs up from me.
 
Lol them book spoilers. Just what I needed.

Very good. Now I don't have to read or attempt to watch a sequel.

Thanks
 
I thought it was okay, although I understand why it went straight to VHS :).

There's one major gripe I have with the story:
They knew the source was at the lighthouse and lighthouses are usually by the coast right? .... why didn't their military's finest not decide to get there from the ocean? A really fast speedboat with tooled up soldiers, a bit of shock'n'awe, storm the lighthouse and torch the infection? No, instead they decided to walk from the furthest part to ensure the soldiers spent as long as possible exposed to the shimmer. What did they think this was, Iraq?
 
I thought it was okay, although I understand why it went straight to VHS :).

There's one major gripe I have with the story:
They knew the source was at the lighthouse and lighthouses are usually by the coast right? .... why didn't their military's finest not decide to get there from the ocean? A really fast speedboat with tooled up soldiers, a bit of shock'n'awe, storm the lighthouse and torch the infection? No, instead they decided to walk from the furthest part to ensure the soldiers spent as long as possible exposed to the shimmer. What did they think this was, Iraq?

The border extends to the sea. A boat coming in would go through the border and disappear to no one knows where. Ships and soldiers disappeared by the hundreds when Area X and the border first appeared.

The only way to get into Area X is though the doorway. No one knows where the doorway comes from, whether it is made by Area X or some other power trying to operate against Area X and help humans. At the end of the second book, the copy of the biologist and Control (temporary Southern Reach Director) find a second doorway that allows them to jump into the sea and come out off the coast of Area X. That doorway only appears after the sudden expansion of Area X.
 
The border extends to the sea. A boat coming in would go through the border and disappear to no one knows where. Ships and soldiers disappeared by the hundreds when Area X and the border first appeared.

The only way to get into Area X is though the doorway. No one knows where the doorway comes from, whether it is made by Area X or some other power trying to operate against Area X and help humans. At the end of the second book, the copy of the biologist and Control (temporary Southern Reach Director) find a second doorway that allows them to jump into the sea and come out off the coast of Area X. That doorway only appears after the sudden expansion of Area X.

Cheers, I suppose the movie couldn't have explained this.
 
The border extends to the sea. A boat coming in would go through the border and disappear to no one knows where. Ships and soldiers disappeared by the hundreds when Area X and the border first appeared.

The only way to get into Area X is though the doorway. No one knows where the doorway comes from, whether it is made by Area X or some other power trying to operate against Area X and help humans. At the end of the second book, the copy of the biologist and Control (temporary Southern Reach Director) find a second doorway that allows them to jump into the sea and come out off the coast of Area X. That doorway only appears after the sudden expansion of Area X.

Thanks for the info.
 
Watched it earlier. Natalie Portman is a stunning actress. I quite liked where the film was going until it got there and then I think that my tuna melt might if had some lsd in it.
 
I watched this on the train today. I wasn't expecting to like it but I really did. My only gripe is that I might have liked a bit more dialogue between the characters but I'm in two minds about that as I think it would have detracted from the overall fatalism which ran through the narrative. I'd watch a second film but honestly I think it might work better as a stand alone, for me the story is reasonably contained and the film went out of its way to imply that things didn't need explaining. Even the guys who were exploring the shimmer never seemed driven by a need for answers, in a less high concept film that would have bothered me but really didn't here, it was kind of fitting.
 
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