Nvidia Ampere might launch as GeForce GTX 2070 and 2080 on April 12th

Greebo · 31 Mar 2018 at 16:05

Not with the memory costing 20% more and there being more of it.

If we are lucky a 2080 will start at 1080ti prices. Can easily see some brands of 2080ti being a grand.

DELETED_195422 · 31 Mar 2018 at 16:30

Man, the GPU market is very dull. I'm skipping three generations, then will see what RTG (if they're still in the desktop market) and Nvidia have to offer. Also, i'm sure as hell not going to pay over £300 just to pay souped up console ports. I want to buy into VR but waiting for the content to justify the cost. Maybe the 3 VR games Valve are developing will be the tipping point.

JediFragger · 31 Mar 2018 at 22:02

Greebo said:
Can easily see the Asus 2080ti being a grand.

Matkinson · 3 Apr 2018 at 10:21

I'm guessing they're going to announce these early May like last time?

Either way, I wish they'd hurry up.

bigmike20vt · 3 Apr 2018 at 10:34

Rock_n_Roll said:
Man, the GPU market is very dull. I'm skipping three generations, then will see what RTG (if they're still in the desktop market) and Nvidia have to offer. Also, i'm sure as hell not going to pay over £300 just to pay souped up console ports. I want to buy into VR but waiting for the content to justify the cost. Maybe the 3 VR games Valve are developing will be the tipping point.

relying on valve developing a game is a dangerous thing....... Halflife 2 Episode 3 anyone?

there is a bucket load of VR content already.... what genres do you like? apart from flat screen games with VR modes / ports (such as pCARS2, Elite Dangerous, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Obduction, ethan carter, Asetto Corsa,) there are "proper" VR games such as Lone echo, luckys tale, robo recall, iron wolf, ST Bridge Crew, From other suns, Mages Tale, Edge of Nowhere, Doom VFR, Xing, pinballFX VR, in death, apex construct, timemachine vr and then there are the free fan made VR versions of games which are often as good as professional dlcs such as doom3 VR, Yukalaylee, Nolf2 VR.... and the flawed but but clenchinly scary alien isolation VR.

heaps more too... i find my VR library is just a mini version of my flat screen library. tons of titles with no time to play.

DELETED_195422 · 3 Apr 2018 at 13:39

bigmike20vt said:
relying on valve developing a game is a dangerous thing....... Halflife 2 Episode 3 anyone?

there is a bucket load of VR content already.... what genres do you like? apart from flat screen games with VR modes / ports (such as pCARS2, Elite Dangerous, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Obduction, ethan carter, Asetto Corsa,) there are "proper" VR games such as Lone echo, luckys tale, robo recall, iron wolf, ST Bridge Crew, From other suns, Mages Tale, Edge of Nowhere, Doom VFR, Xing, pinballFX VR, in death, apex construct, timemachine vr and then there are the free fan made VR versions of games which are often as good as professional dlcs such as doom3 VR, Yukalaylee, Nolf2 VR.... and the flawed but but clenchinly scary alien isolation VR.

heaps more too... i find my VR library is just a mini version of my flat screen library. tons of titles with no time to play.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll wishlist the ones i'm interested in as i feel it's just a matter of time when i get into VR.

FoxEye · 3 Apr 2018 at 23:54

Greebo said:
Not with the memory costing 20% more and there being more of it.

If we are lucky a 2080 will start at 1080ti prices. Can easily see some brands of 2080ti being a grand.

Perversely, I'd love to see the 1180/2080 start at £800 or so.

It'll be fun to watch people defending the pricing (as always). "PC gaming is healthier than ever, my mates are ditching their **banned word** in droves! I showed them how great PC gaming is; after that they agreed that £2k was a bargain!"

I'd also love to see the 1160/2060 start at £400. The xx70 starting at £550/£600.

It won't bother me at all since I'm very much take-it-or-leave-it now with the PC as a platform. I don't need a gaming PC. I absolutely refuse to be milked. I could afford it - sure. But I'm not spending that much, it would irritate me no end

Jensen has enough leather jackets anyhow.

The comedy gold would be worth it if those prices came to be.

WantoN · 4 Apr 2018 at 00:21

@FoxEye i enjoy quite a lot of your posts, and agree with a fair few too. However, I don’t understand how someone can take pleasure in the misery of others :confused:

I’m hoping the next gen reaches a sensible pricing point and we don’t continue to lose pc gamers to console, it’ll hurt the quality and quantity of games, and that can only be a bad thing.

I have a feeling all the rubbing hands at the descent of mining will be short lived, and the next gen will see a resurgence in card uptake for mining.

I do hope not, I want a ti next year.

FoxEye · 4 Apr 2018 at 00:39

WantoN said:
@FoxEye i enjoy quite a lot of your posts, and agree with a fair few too. However, I don’t understand how someone can take pleasure in the misery of others

I’m hoping the next gen reaches a sensible pricing point and we don’t continue to lose pc gamers to console, it’ll hurt the quality and quantity of games, and that can only be a bad thing.

I have a feeling all the rubbing hands at the descent of mining will be short lived, and the next gen will see a resurgence in card uptake for mining.

I do hope not, I want a ti next year.

To be perfectly honest, I'm expecting a future where mining continues to eat up all the GPUs at a rate of something like 80%+ of all GPUs made.

I'm expecting (fully, honestly) the PC to be relevent as a gaming platform only to a handful of people who a) have the money and b) think it's worth the asking price.

I'm not enjoying anyone's misery... I'd quite like to have been able to upgrade myself. But various people (inc Gibbo) have warned us to expect price increases from the 10xx launch price to the 11xx launch price... perhaps something approaching 20% increase. And that's without mining. With mining it could be anything. 30% increase? No problem. 50%? Possible.

Expect the worst, would be my advice.

WantoN · 4 Apr 2018 at 01:23

Unfortunately I’m inclined to agree. For the first time ever I may be moved to pre-order/day one purchase, just to ensure I get a card before they’re hiked in price or unavailable.

At least the miners aren’t buying monitors, they’re expensive enough as it is.

Greebo · 4 Apr 2018 at 07:17

Well last launch of the 1080 it paid to pre order early but that ended up being because of the exchange rate tanking. I remember getting two high end after cooler gaming x 1080s for £505 each. I’m still not sure if after cooler 1080s have ever got that low again?

WantoN · 4 Apr 2018 at 09:31

Greebo said:
Well last launch of the 1080 it paid to pre order early but that ended up being because of the exchange rate tanking. I remember getting two high end after cooler gaming x 1080s for £505 each. I’m still not sure if after cooler 1080s have ever got that low again?

Can’t believe I’m going to say this, but you scored a bargain sir.

BubbySoup · 4 Apr 2018 at 09:59

WantoN said:
@FoxEye i enjoy quite a lot of your posts, and agree with a fair few too. However, I don’t understand how someone can take pleasure in the misery of others

It's not really misery though is it? It's misguided devotion to a company's product. At the current levels of performance a 1080ti affords there is no real need to upgrade if the price of the new GPU's is disagreeable.

varkanoid · 4 Apr 2018 at 10:10

BubbySoup said:
It's not really misery though is it? It's misguided devotion to a company's product. At the current levels of performance a 1080ti affords there is no real need to upgrade if the price of the new GPU's is disagreeable.

Same could be said for a 1080 or AMD's offerings. If you have a decent gaming PC there is no need to upgrade as GPU advancements are so far ahead of game demands its ludicrous. This talk about spending money after money to upgrade your PC has not been needed for a long time. Its just people wanting the next best thing. Thats there preference.

bigmike20vt · 4 Apr 2018 at 10:10

BubbySoup said:
It's not really misery though is it? It's misguided devotion to a company's product. At the current levels of performance a 1080ti affords there is no real need to upgrade if the price of the new GPU's is disagreeable.

i suppose that depends on what you are upgrading from!. having just got a 4K TV, my gpu has gone from perfect @1080p to blowing out of its arse trying to put out at 4k.

BubbySoup · 4 Apr 2018 at 10:36

bigmike20vt said:
i suppose that depends on what you are upgrading from!. having just got a 4K TV, my gpu has gone from perfect @1080p to blowing out of its arse trying to put out at 4k.

You're pushing millions of pixels a second more than before - that's self inflicted misery

Gregster · 4 Apr 2018 at 10:42

FoxEye said:
Perversely, I'd love to see the 1180/2080 start at £800 or so.

It'll be fun to watch people defending the pricing (as always). "PC gaming is healthier than ever, my mates are ditching their **banned word** in droves! I showed them how great PC gaming is; after that they agreed that £2k was a bargain!"

I'd also love to see the 1160/2060 start at £400. The xx70 starting at £550/£600.

It won't bother me at all since I'm very much take-it-or-leave-it now with the PC as a platform. I don't need a gaming PC. I absolutely refuse to be milked. I could afford it - sure. But I'm not spending that much, it would irritate me no end Jensen has enough leather jackets anyhow.

The comedy gold would be worth it if those prices came to be.

You come across as very bitter.

bigmike20vt · 4 Apr 2018 at 11:19

BubbySoup said:
You're pushing millions of pixels a second more than before - that's self inflicted misery

oh indeed...... but it is so shiny..................

Geck0 · 4 Apr 2018 at 11:51

LOL someone calls time on GPU prices and gets called "bitter".

HRL · 4 Apr 2018 at 12:13

WantoN said:
Unfortunately I’m inclined to agree. For the first time ever I may be moved to pre-order/day one purchase, just to ensure I get a card before they’re hiked in price or unavailable.

I’m waiting for Ti pre-orders already. Gonna be a long wait but necessary by the looks of it.