78 year old pensioner arrested for for stabbing burglar (burglar later died in hospital)

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but he's been charged with GBH not murder or manslaughter, the stabbing is the reason for the arrest
BBC says otherwise

"A 78-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a suspected burglar was stabbed to death."
 
BBC says otherwise

"A 78-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a suspected burglar was stabbed to death."

ah they previously had arrested for GBH on the news this morning - edit, in fact if you look at the BBC quote in the OP they state GBH

which again perhaps indicates that he was arrested before the burglar later died in hospital - ergo Evangilion's rather angry post is perhaps a bit unwarranted
 
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I think the police have to arrest someone in these case. Charges may or may not be made at a later date. An arrest is not necessarily based on anything other than suspicion.
Andi.
 
I'd hope there is something more to come out about the circumstances, suspicion of murder seems an odd one based on the current reports. GBH or manslaughter would be understandable but changing to murder after a morning in custody implies there is a bit more going on that we're not privy to yet.
 
The powers that be are worried that it will spark off a chain reaction if unchallenged. Just the way it is I'm afraid. For all you know the pensioner may have been the biggest criminal going. All about being proper and having a nice cup of tea.
 
Arrested for defending his home? great job.

I think if someone breaks in and gets shot or stabbed or whatever it's on them. You take that risk when you break into someones house.
just no, arrested which means he has more protection in the interview while police determine exactly what happens. CPS will decide to charge or not. If cps decide to go to court and the events are whats posted then you can be outraged. Until that happens, it is far better to be arrested and questioned with counsel etc.

otherwise nothing would be investigated and people like tony martin would get away with murder.
 
The victims family should have to pay to have the blood cleaned from the old man's carpet and issue an apology on behalf of the deceased for putting the old man through that ordeal in my opinion
 
The victims family should have to pay to have the blood cleaned from the old man's carpet and issue an apology on behalf of the deceased for putting the old man through that ordeal in my opinion
what utter nonsense, so you agree and support everything your family does? what an utterly stupid post.
 
The victims family should have to pay to have the blood cleaned from the old man's carpet and issue an apology on behalf of the deceased for putting the old man through that ordeal in my opinion


That's what the Vikings used to do. If a murder was committed, the victims family had the choice of getting money from the attacker or having him killed.
 
I'd hope there is something more to come out about the circumstances, suspicion of murder seems an odd one based on the current reports. GBH or manslaughter would be understandable but changing to murder after a morning in custody implies there is a bit more going on that we're not privy to yet.

I'd hope so too because if it is just a home owner defending himself then the, apparently standard, was of dealing with this sort of situation seems very off. If on the other hand there is a bit more to it and he's somehow ended up in a situation where he didn't need to stab the burglar, the burglar was retreating at that point etc.. then obviously that changes things somewhat.
 
what utter nonsense, so you agree and support everything your family does? what an utterly stupid post.

My post was some what tongue in cheek but I feel the only victim here is the old man who was put in a position where he felt his only option was to stab someone. He was in his own home going about his lawful business, the burglars made the choice to break the law and got what was coming to them
 
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Burglar deserved it.

Well done to the old man. Imho anyone breaking and entering someone elses home forfeits any rights or protections they may have under the law.
 
This is so sad, poor old man did nothing but defend himself. The law needs to change on this, big time.

Where has that been reported? For all we know, when the police arrived he may have told them 'I'm glad I murdered the *******'. There's not enough info about what happened at the moment.
 
In a landmark case last year the High Court ruled that householders can use a disproportionate level of force against an intruder in their homes if they reasonably believe it is necessary.
So he was unlawfully arrested, or are the police/CPS allowed to flagrantly disregard High Court rulings?
 
A man died in his house, apparently as a result of his actions, I'm not surprised the police arrested him. If his story checks out and he really was simply defending himself and his property then I'd expect him to be released without charge. In the meantime the police have a responsibility to investigate and arresting him allows them to do that, allows them to preserve evidence, and protects his rights. I'm sure the whole thing has been hugely distressing to the gentleman, his family and to the family of the dead man, but I'm not sure how else we could expect the police to handle the situation.
 
So he was unlawfully arrested, or are the police/CPS allowed to flagrantly disregard High Court rulings?
You still have to question someone to ascertain what they thought was reasonably believed to be necessary (and why).

If he's knocked him out stone cold with a frying pan and then stabbed him in the chest for a bit of afters, that's never going to fly as reasonable but the police won't know what went on without arresting and questioning.
 
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