Asked to stop blasphemy

Marky · 5 Apr 2018 at 11:59

The way I see it is, I'm not going to have known the person long enough to have to ruin a friendship over. I.e. It's not going to be a year into knowing the person that they've suddenly decided my use of "God" in my language is inappropriate, it'll have come up far sooner. And I probably wouldn't be friends with some one that had that sort of view on the matter. If it was a work colleague, certainly where I work, I think the person will be sort of casting themselves out of the group - But it's different in different work spaces. I work in a small company where it would be more brushed off. I could see it potentially being a problem if someone brought it up in a bigger company that had a HR department etc.

wolfie138 · 5 Apr 2018 at 11:59

"a man's freinds should not care what he says or does, those who are not his friends, to Hell w/ them"
Ty Cobb

MookJong · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:00

crinkleshoes said:
Wrong way round... if you value the friendship you should help the person, rather than let them live in their little box of isolation.

The way to break them out of their box is not to take an action that currently upsets them. You would need to start working on dissolving their faith / belief system which is not done via offence but by education.

Mr Jack · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:01

placeholder said:
If she is a friend why would your wife want to offend her? No, she is under no obligation to modify her language but I don't see why she wouldn't. My mother in law is religious and I don't swear in front of her just because its the polite thing to do and it doesn't cost me anything really.

Nailed in the first reply. Perfect.

crinkleshoes · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:03

MookJong said:
The way to break them out of their box is not to take an action that currently upsets them. You would need to start working on dissolving their faith / belief system which is not done via offence but by education.

No, all you have to do is teach them context and help them appreciate and respect the views and beliefs of others.

Ayahuasca · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:04

wolfie138 said:
"a man's freinds should not care what he says or does, those who are not his friends, to Hell w/ them"
Ty Cobb

Terrible quote, did he get a baseball off his noggin a few times?

Diddums x · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:08

Maccy said:
I do it to you though

You do all the things to me big guy xxx

krooton · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:17

MookJong said:
There are many times where you have to curb your language due to the company or situation you are in. It just is part of being civil and a considerate person.

If my wife called me over this, I would tell her to grow up lol.

This, it's a very simple part of adulting. I don't understand why not having kids is supposed to be some sort of free-pass for poor conversational skills either.

Diagro · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:28

I use those terms plenty. Unfortunately, my new job is working with people are are completely devoted to their faith... It's going to be hard, having to think about what I'm going to say all the time...

Diddums x · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:30

MookJong said:
If my wife called me over this, I would tell her to grow up lol.

Sure thing fella.

Hades · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:41

There are some things I wouldn't change my language for. But this is a small matter that would make someone else's day a little better. It's the polite thing to do and good manners to try to curb your language around her. It's a small thing and good manners makes the world better for all.

AHarvey · 5 Apr 2018 at 12:41

Tell her to say "oh my god!" in front of her and when she comments on it get her to reply with "Jesus Christ you would hate being in my bedroom with my husband and I are going at it!"

then walk off

TacticalFish · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:13

As this sounds like an almost completely one-sided friendship, your wife can:

Refuse to modify her language, said lady will:
1. Stop talking to her
2. Realise over time that it's not that bigger deal/ learn to deal with it as part of a relationship she values
Modify her language, thus placating said bible basher
???
There is no profit here

Trig · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:29

Your username says all it needs too tbh, don't like my language (or wife's in this case), awwwwww Diddums..

ttaskmaster · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:38

crinkleshoes said:
What about the other woman's lack of common courtesy?
Asking someone to change themselves for you is much more offensive than a couple of words.

So I assume anyone who asks you not to swear around their children gets told to **** right off and stuff it up their ****, too?
This is no different, really.

Diddums said:
One's using terminology that might offend someone and your example is insulting someone to their face deliberately.

Not at all - Some friends would call each other this quite readily, as a term of endearment. Others would get quite upset if you did that to them.

Diddums x · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:47

Trig said:
Your username says all it needs too tbh, don't like my language (or wife's in this case), awwwwww Diddums..

Holy crap, you have no idea how close to the reasoning for my username that is :eek:

ttaskmaster said:
So I assume anyone who asks you not to swear around their children gets told to **** right off and stuff it up their ****, too?
This is no different, really.

Not at all - Some friends would call each other this quite readily, as a term of endearment. Others would get quite upset if you did that to them.

Again: One is habitual use of words, the other is directed straight at someone. If you can't tell the difference between those two things then there's no point continuing debating this with you.

Dunks · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:49

Diddums said:
Holy crap, you have no idea how close to the reasoning for my username that is

Again: One is habitual use of words, the other is directed straight at someone. If you can't tell the difference between those two things then there's no point continuing debating this with you.

How is habitually saying "oh my god" or "jesus Christ" different than habitually swearing? Both are offensive to some.

ttaskmaster · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:51

Diddums said:
Again: One is habitual use of words, the other is directed straight at someone. If you can't tell the difference between those two things then there's no point continuing debating this with you.

I've already specified that they're both being used habitually.
If you're too much of a dozy **** to understand that, then good luck with the rest of your antisocial circle. The fact that you'd have to actually ask about common courtesy and good manners on an internet forum says it all.
Besides, you've already said you're not going to change your mind, so there was really no point posting in the first place.

dowie · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:52

placeholder said:
If she is a friend why would your wife want to offend her?

this tbh..

I think religion is pretty silly but I'm not going to, for example, go around wearing say a Jesus and Mo t-shirt like some militant atheist just to rile up Christians and Muslims. It is hardly a big deal to not use those phrases.. I mean if you're not religious why would you even need to curse a god you don't believe in?

If for some reason she said, oh **** Mohammed, instead and a Muslim in the building politely asked her not to would she also have a reaction in her head of **** off?

Diddums x · 5 Apr 2018 at 13:53

ttaskmaster said:
I've already specified that they're both being used habitually.
If you're too much of a dozy **** to understand that, then good luck with the rest of your antisocial circle. The fact that you'd have to actually ask about common courtesy and good manners on an internet forum says it all.
Besides, you've already said you're not going to change your mind, so there was really no point posting in the first place.

The point was discussion. Given we're approaching four pages of it, I think that has succeeded fairly well. Thanks for calling my social circles antisocial however. I'll make sure to tell everyone we have another meet up that someone on the internet said they're antisocial